DieHard 2,061 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/10/25/16535446/busting-4-myths-about-the-kansas-city-chiefs-defense-its-not-all-bob-sutton Great article on what we have been arguing about. 55 defensive snaps and Houston only dropped into coverage on 11. None of the long TDs were when he was in coverage. We only rushed 3 and dropped 8 six times. We only gave up 24 yards Combine on those 6 plays. Not saying those were good or bad calls. Just saying it had nothing to do with getting a clown suit put on us on the defensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2017/10/25/16535446/busting-4-myths-about-the-kansas-city-chiefs-defense-its-not-all-bob-sutton Great article on what we have been arguing about. 55 defensive snaps and Houston only dropped into coverage on 11. None of the long TDs were when he was in coverage. We only rushed 3 and dropped 8 six times. We only gave up 24 yards Combine on those 6 plays. Not saying those were good or bad calls. Just saying it had nothing to do with getting a clown suit put on us on the defensive side of the ball. It's sad actually: The Chiefs almost always rushed four against the Raiders, and didn't get a single sack, forced fumble, or interception. So much for "talent". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 It's sad actually: The Chiefs almost always rushed four against the Raiders, and didn't get a single sack, forced fumble, or interception. So much for "talent". And the Raiders O line has sucked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted October 25, 2017 Author Share Posted October 25, 2017 I thought no they were worn out. The talent is there. Think Houston is struggling to get his pass rush back and DJ is struggling with blowing up running plays. I thought no you see some of that old spark in the second half, but Ragland, Mitchell, Ford, Hali and the D line need to step it up a notch also. DBs need to make the play when in position. We can’t put it all of Houston and DJ. They are being more productive than anyone out there. I don’t hate no thus D will be just as good as last year. Top 5 scoring and below average yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 And the Raiders O line has sucked! Again it was probably the best oline in football last year and is the highest paid this year. Penn held out all of training camp and clearly it took him time to get back into shape. That's a clear strength of that team. If they do struggle going forward. They are in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Sutton Simply Stinks and He Smells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,687 Posted October 25, 2017 Share Posted October 25, 2017 Sutton Simply Stinks and He Smells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted October 26, 2017 Share Posted October 26, 2017 It's sad actually: The Chiefs almost always rushed four against the Raiders, and didn't get a single sack, forced fumble, or interception. So much for "talent". The pass rush has been quiet as of late but with that said how does a team beat a good pass rush? Get the ball out quick, run it down your throat, or use play action. The Chiefs run defense has been suspect for 2 years now so we know they give up yards on the ground and it leaves the Chiefs open to the play action. The Chiefs are hurting in the secondary because they lost 2 starters. This point makes getting the ball out quicker that much easier especially when the CB's that are starting probably shouldn't be starters. Hopefully Nelson helps correct this issue but I think the loss of Berry is really hurting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted October 27, 2017 Share Posted October 27, 2017 Made another topic on houston. We needed to draft more OLB'ers. PFfffft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,603 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- The pass rush hasn’t been productive during the Kansas City Chiefs’ two-game losing streak, and the solution seems on the surface to be obvious. The Chiefs need to send their best pass-rusher, outside linebackerJustin Houston, after the quarterback more frequently. Houston rushes the quarterback about three times for every occasion he drops into pass coverage, according to ESPN Stats & Information. ADVERTISEMENT But what’s interesting is that while their pass rush is better when Houston rushes the quarterback, their pass defense isn’t as good overall. That suggests that perhaps defensive coordinator Bob Sutton is doing the right things with Houston on the whole. Houston leads the Chiefs in sacks with 5.5, but he’s good in coverage as well. Some of the stats: -- Houston has rushed the quarterback 199 times, as opposed to 63 times he’s dropped into coverage. This includes 11 times when the opposing quarterback has scrambled after dropping to pass. -- The Chiefs have 12 sacks when Houston rushes and two when he’s in coverage. They also have four of their five interceptions when he’s chasing the QB. -- The completion percentage is almost the same: 52.8 percent when he’s rushing against 52.5 percent when he’s dropped into coverage. -- The Chiefs are allowing many of their long pass plays when Houston is rushing the quarterback. The Chiefs have allowed nine passes of 35 or more yards with Houston in their lineup. Eight have come with him rushing the QB and one when he’s in coverage. That explains why the opposing QB has a better passer rating when Houston rushes the quarterback (89.9) than when he’s in coverage (81.5). The Chiefs are also better on pass defense when their other outside linebacker, Dee Ford, drops into coverage as opposed to when he rushes the QB. Opponents are completing 59.1 percent of their passes with Ford rushing the quarterback and 29.2 percent when he’s in coverage. Opposing quarterbacks have an 82.6 rating when Ford rushes, a 31.6 rating when he’s covering. The Chiefs have played 114 snaps with both Houston and Ford rushing the quarterback. Opposing quarterbacks have a passer rating of 82.9 and a completion percentage of 58.1. They’ve played 13 snaps with both in coverage. Opponents have a passer rating of 51.4 and a completion percentage of 25. http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city-chiefs/post/_/id/22984/by-some-important-measures-chiefs-are-better-with-justin-houston-in-pass-coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Sutton is doing what makes sense for what he has on the field and he's been highly successful with it overall since he's been here. He's simply handicapped right now by a LB group that really only has Houston he can count on. And when corners of safeties are where they are supposed to be and have good coverage yet still give up the reception, how is that the schemes fault. Quite the opposite. He's got to add a few disguised blitzes in there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 28, 2017 Share Posted October 28, 2017 Sutton is doing what makes sense for what he has on the field and he's been highly successful with it overall since he's been here. He's simply handicapped right now by a LB group that really only has Houston he can count on. And when corners of safeties are where they are supposed to be and have good coverage yet still give up the reception, how is that the schemes fault. Quite the opposite. He's got to add a few disguised blitzes in there though. But but but... i have it on good authority that Sutton sucks ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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