Chiefswinitall 60 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 If Andy wont get rid of Sutton then what? Our new GM is an Andy Disciple. Is it Clarke Hunt who makes the call to fire our D. coordinator? Reid hired him so..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The defense needs an attitude change with lots of new personnel on field and sideline. Softest team in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Unfortunately I think DJ is done too. I'd like to see eligwe get a series or two a game. See what we have in him. Could Ragland and eligwe be the future? I thought Ragland looked better today. Might be rounding into shape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Chris jones is completely MIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The problem on defense is how it was built. We stupidly didn’t upgrade over dj who is old, lost a step and coming off of another major injury. We’re stuck with berry who’s had multiple season ending injuries. Outside of the project we picked up in Ragland who I like and actually agree with, our ilb group is complete shit. Our only good corner is selfish and afraid to tackle. The back 7 needs to be torn down and rebuilt. Only guys I’d keep are Houston , Murray and Ragland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The problem on defense is how it was built. We stupidly didn’t upgrade over dj who is old, lost a step and coming off of another major injury. We’re stuck with berry who’s had multiple season ending injuries. Outside of the project we picked up in Ragland who I like and actually agree with, our ilb group is complete shit. Our only good corner is selfish and afraid to tackle. The back 7 needs to be torn down and rebuilt. Only guys I’d keep are Houston , Murray and Ragland.Yeah I'm not a fan of our secondary either. I do like BNelson though as a slot corner. I would put him as a keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Chris jones is completely MIA I'm wondering about Reid hiring his son as a DL coach. Even Logan looks soft as a run defender, which he wasn't in Philly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 At least Nelson will tackle. That puts him ahead of peters in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 We play the softest corner coverage in the league. Those quick out passes are pretty much there anytime the other team wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 In terms of ball awareness, this maybe the worst ever. The entire secondary is garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I no longer blame Sutton. Yep I admit I was way off. The defense is simply not that great. He is doing the best he can with what he has to work with. Changing coordinators does not fix average talent. Glad the bye week is here. I am not a superbowl or failure guy either. So winning the AFC West is always a good thing.Watched the Donks get punked earlier and getting set to root against the Raiders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 In terms of ball awareness, this maybe the worst ever. The entire secondary is garbage. Yeah a little ball awareness would have been nice on that TD where Prescott ran it in. Most of the defenders had their back to the ball and that's why no one was anywhere near him after he escaped Bailey. Now is that the defenders just not being coached correctly or simply undisciplined play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mex 65,583 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 At least Nelson will tackle. That puts him ahead of peters in my book. the kid ain't afraid to lay the wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Yeah a little ball awareness would have been nice on that TD where Prescott ran it in. Most of the defenders had their back to the ball and that's why no one was anywhere near him after he escaped Bailey. Now is that the defenders just not being coached correctly or simply undisciplined play? I think there is little talent on this defense. Aside from Houston, I don't think I'd want any of them on my D. Maybe Parker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I think there is little talent on this defense. Aside from Houston, I don't think I'd want any of them on my D. Maybe Parker. I still like Nelson. I would allow Ragland time to develop...add Houston, Jones and Parker. The rest?.. eh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I still like Nelson. I would allow Ragland time to develop...add Houston, Jones and Parker. The rest?.. eh! Jones disappears for games at a time. Beasley punked Nelson all day. Repeat...Beasley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 I no longer blame Sutton. Yep I admit I was way off. The defense is simply not that great. He is doing the best he can with what he has to work with. Changing coordinators does not fix average talent. Glad the bye week is here. I am not a superbowl or failure guy either. So winning the AFC West is always a good thing.Watched the Donks get punked earlier and getting set to root against the Raiders.Agree. We are simply not that good. Losing Berry was a big deal. Seems to me Sutton is doing the best he can with what he has to work with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Sutton just doesn't have the talent. Murray is lost out there. Sorenson is no longer effective. Chris Jones had a decent game but he disappears from time to time. Peters, is not playing with his heart. DJ is what he his. I thought Hali had some nice spurts today. Ragland was ok. Biggest thing for this team is the running game. Why can't we run the ball anymore? We're not winning in the trenches like we did our first 5 games. Why is that? Alex Smith cannot carry the burden of non existing running game. The loss of Conley still hurts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLchief 3,126 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's not scheme, it's lack of talent. They are shit on that side of the ball. Gawd awful contracts awarded to that bunch of miscreants. QB money to a one-year wonder. Highest paid safety in history kickin' it at home, collecting paychecks. This team is soft as fuck. Gimmicky, finesse-offense, and a bunch of broke-dick, old players on defense. And the young guys don't want to hit. I waited a few minutes before I hit the "post" button, but I couldn't find any reason to change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 The problem on defense is how it was built. We stupidly didn’t upgrade over dj who is old, lost a step and coming off of another major injury. We’re stuck with berry who’s had multiple season ending injuries. Outside of the project we picked up in Ragland who I like and actually agree with, our ilb group is complete shit. Our only good corner is selfish and afraid to tackle. The back 7 needs to be torn down and rebuilt. Only guys I’d keep are Houston , Murray and Ragland. Dorsey is to blame for ignoring ILB position and resigning Sorensen to a big extension. . But you want to get rid of Parker, Nelson and Peters? That's absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's not scheme, it's lack of talent. They are shit on that side of the ball. Gawd awful contracts awarded to that bunch of miscreants. QB money to a one-year wonder. Highest paid safety in history kickin' it at home, collecting paychecks. This team is soft as fuck. Gimmicky, finesse-offense, and a bunch of broke-dick, old players on defense. And the young guys don't want to hit. I waited a few minutes before I hit the "post" button, but I couldn't find any reason to change my mind. Oh hey ATL. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefsFoolFan 149 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Sutton just doesn't have the talent. Murray is lost out there. Sorenson is no longer effective. Chris Jones had a decent game but he disappears from time to time. Peters, is not playing with his heart. DJ is what he his. I thought Hali had some nice spurts today. Ragland was ok. Biggest thing for this team is the running game. Why can't we run the ball anymore? We're not winning in the trenches like we did our first 5 games. Why is that? Alex Smith cannot carry the burden of non existing running game. The loss of Conley still hurts. Ragland looked decent today. I think he can develop into something decent. I have to disagree with people who criticize Jones today. He had several big plays today. People are worried about the running game (as am i). Witzman needs to go. I have no idea why Fulton or Ehringer are not playing in his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLchief 3,126 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Oh hey ATL. Sorry, man. Just a little hot under the collar tonight. Only good football I saw this weekend was my 10-year-old's team winning their 1st playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefsFoolFan 149 Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 Dorsey is to blame for ignoring ILB position and resigning Sorensen to a big extension. . But you want to get rid of Parker, Nelson and Peters? That's absurd. Moon, I am with you on this... we need to keep these guys. I still blame Sutton for not applying enough pressure on opposing QBs. We sat back & let Dak have 15 seconds to find an open guy on 3 & 15 when we rushed 2 or 3 guys. That’s not a player problem. That is a scheme/DC issue .... & it’s been a consistent problem all year. Hell, Sutton loves to put our best pass rusher (Houston out in coverage 40% of the time). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted November 6, 2017 Author Share Posted November 6, 2017 It's not scheme, it's lack of talent. They are shit on that side of the ball. Gawd awful contracts awarded to that bunch of miscreants. QB money to a one-year wonder. Highest paid safety in history kickin' it at home, collecting paychecks. This team is soft as fuck. Gimmicky, finesse-offense, and a bunch of broke-dick, old players on defense. And the young guys don't want to hit. I waited a few minutes before I hit the "post" button, but I couldn't find any reason to change my mind. :lol: :lol: lololololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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