Chiefswinitall 60 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 crap d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Crap all the way around. Andy is too soft on this team. REID is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 But is Father Time the real problem here? Or lack of talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 But is Father Time the real problem here? Or lack of talent. REID is responsible. Its his team, his decisions. He is too soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Stan Weber said when Andy was hired to watch carefully who he hires for DEF Coord. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Fire Reid. Eat his contract. He is a disgrace who needs to treat these children like children, not men. They haven’t earned the respect to be called men after today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 But is Father Time the real problem here? Or lack of talent. Probably more talent than Sutton which is why he probably be here next year. Sutton is a problem though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jollyredjj 3 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 In all fairness, when Sutton was hired and for a good while following, we were a dominant defense. But as we can clearly see, that very defense is rapidly aging to the point of collapse. Unfornately there have been several key additions that were expected to replenish by attrition, that simply failed (read Ford etc. into this), and the blueprint to success in dominating us is not only published but widely disseminated throughout the league. Ladies and gentleman, it is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,811 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 But is Father Time the real problem here? Or lack of talent. Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Any DC that needs elite talent across the D to be elite, isn't a very great DC at all. We have spent a lot of picks and money on that side of the ball but we haven't seemed to develop many players there. That is on coaching. We will end up spending all our cap space trying to make that unit serviceable for next year.....again. I believe there has to be a scheme that we can run here in KC that we aren't always depending on one or two superstars to make us just avg. Rather those one or two superstars make us great and without them we are still serviceable. There will be some hard decisions to make this offseason in player personnel and coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 The safeties are awful. The whole secondary in fact. Sutton' s scheme requires multiple safeties on the field. We don't have the players to implement. Parker has been disappointing and Sorenson is ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Father Time's defense has always been a read and react. Yes, give up yards between the 20s yet stifle opponents in the red zone. They are doing neither now and gave up 7 scoring drives to the Jets 9 possessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Father Time's defense has always been a read and react. Yes, give up yards between the 20s yet stifle opponents in the red zone. They are doing neither now and gave up 7 scoring drives to the Jets 9 possessions. 100 percent right. Sutton has done a very good job since he got here until this year. His personnel has regressed in a major way and he hasn't gambled enough to help when he could. But it's a talent issue above all else. IId like to see new blood here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I just saw Seattle run a corner blitz to sack the QB. When was the last time we did something even remotely “creative” that didn’t involve jamming all the rushers straight at the oline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I just saw Seattle run a corner blitz to sack the QB. When was the last time we did something even remotely “creative” that didn’t involve jamming all the rushers straight at the oline? You really want to blitz Marcus Peters? The guy couldn't make the tackle if his life depended on it. I guess my point is our corners other than Nelson are all limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 You really want to blitz Marcus Peters? The guy couldn't make the tackle if his life depended on it. I guess my point is our corners other than Nelson are all limited. A corner blitz would be more like Nelson blitzing from the slot with a safety picking up his man. I still think the biggest problem with the defense was going into this year relying on DJ who is older , lost a step and was coming off of yet another season ending injury. DJ has been flat out awful, trying to shoulder tackle without wrapping up, and that’s not even mentioning the loss in speed. He’s a smart player but physically he just doesn’t have it anymore. I was pretty vocal about this coming into the season. Now, a healthy berry would’ve masked some of DJ and his drop off a cliff , but as soon as he went down with another season ending injury, I knew we were screwed. Given roster construction, dead money tied up in declining players and injuries , I really think Sutton has done an admirable job. Yes we got piss pounded today but in recent weeks the defense has played pretty well and I think Sutton should get some credit for that considering what he’s got to work with. That’s not an endorsement of Sutton being retained by any means , I just think Andy Reid and Dorsey completely screwed this roster for 2017. Getting out from under so many bad contracts after this season leads me to believe our true window will open with the beginning of the 2019 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 The only reason Chiefs are losing right now is Reid, others have a role to play as well but when the HC is so far removed from actually coaching a team the rest is bound to fail. Reid needs to get his act together and get a control over the team otherwise we'll be wasting the Mahomes era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 A corner blitz would be more like Nelson blitzing from the slot with a safety picking up his man. I still think the biggest problem with the defense was going into this year relying on DJ who is older , lost a step and was coming off of yet another season ending injury. DJ has been flat out awful, trying to shoulder tackle without wrapping up, and that’s not even mentioning the loss in speed. He’s a smart player but physically he just doesn’t have it anymore. I was pretty vocal about this coming into the season. Now, a healthy berry would’ve masked some of DJ and his drop off a cliff , but as soon as he went down with another season ending injury, I knew we were screwed. Given roster construction, dead money tied up in declining players and injuries , I really think Sutton has done an admirable job. Yes we got piss pounded today but in recent weeks the defense has played pretty well and I think Sutton should get some credit for that considering what he’s got to work with. That’s not an endorsement of Sutton being retained by any means , I just think Andy Reid and Dorsey completely screwed this roster for 2017. Getting out from under so many bad contracts after this season leads me to believe our true window will open with the beginning of the 2019 season. I agree. The defense looks a lot better when it was Ragland and Pierre-Louis in there together. More speed and physicality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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