MisChief-Maker 135 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 In the midst of this gloom we're caught up in, I just wanted to take a second to talk about this young phenomenon affectionately known as CHEETAH!!. How good is this young man yall? I mean really? Twelve Td's last season in various ways, seven thus far this season too. I honestly believe he can reach the heights of an Antonio Brown if he continues to do what he's doing. And with Pat soon to be leading the team, you just know those deep balls are gonna be served up to him all day. All we need to do now is add a tall, quick WR opposite him and our offense should be something to behold in the next few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 As long as the offensive playcaller doesn't forget him, he should be able to do this for awhile....Its just like Watson in Houston...all he as to do is throw jump balls to the WRs he has that are a foot taller than the players covering him and he'll be an MVP candidate. It shocks me that we don't just throw bombs to Hill knowing full well nobody is going to get past him. Nagy figured it out though...hopefully the trend continues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 It's about matchups and our OLine giving some time to throw. I still don't think he's a number one against a top 10 D. His yards are all straight downfield. He's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He needs to continue to develop into more of a complete WR capable of running every route, but overall I’d say he’s definitely on the right path. I can’t wait to see PM2 throwing him strikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 He's a Superstar Gimmick player, and we should continue to embrace that. He's not Antonio Brown, a polished WR that's been a WR for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 I feel he is an everydown receiver but should line up in the slot, allowing him to not just be confined to one side of the field. He should have the role Welker had, and he’s much more quicker, agile, and faster than Welker, so his production would be far greater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Send his ass deep in the middle and to attack and put a move on the safety 1 on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 Send his ass deep in the middle and to attack and put a move on the safety 1 on 1I really agree with this take. It will open things up on the outside. Hill and Kelce attacking middle! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He's a Superstar Gimmick player, and we should continue to embrace that. He's not Antonio Brown, a polished WR that's been a WR for years.How is he a super star gimmick player? 2016, he was. 2017, he's being played as a WR and among the top WRs statistically. No gimmicks about it. Explain in depth how he is a gimmick player in 2017. Brown has been in the league since 2010. Hill since 2016. Look at the 2017 stats and there is not much difference. Is Brown better? Yes, but he also has several seasons of NFL experience. Gimmick player my ass. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HillTy00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowAn04.htm Brown didn't have a SUPER STAR season until his 4th season. Hill on pace to match or do better than Browns 2nd year. Gimmick? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=RECEIVING&conference=null&season=2017&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1 6Th in yards, has 2 less TDs than Brown. 1 more 40+ plus yard play than Brown. He is a top WR playing in a WR role. No gimmicks about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 How is he a super star gimmick player? 2016, he was. 2017, he's being played as a WR and among the top WRs statistically. No gimmicks about it. Explain in depth how he is a gimmick player in 2017. Brown has been in the league since 2010. Hill since 2016. Look at the 2017 stats and there is not much difference. Is Brown better? Yes, but he also has several seasons of NFL experience. Gimmick player my ass. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HillTy00.htm https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BrowAn04.htm Brown didn't have a SUPER STAR season until his 4th season. Hill on pace to match or do better than Browns 2nd year. Gimmick? http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=0&statisticCategory=RECEIVING&conference=null&season=2017&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RECEIVING_YARDS&d-447263-o=2&d-447263-n=1 6Th in yards, has 2 less TDs than Brown. 1 more 40+ plus yard play than Brown. He is a top WR playing in a WR role. No gimmicks about it. You make a compelling argument that he's progressed beyond gimmik player. And I don't mean it as any derision. I like him used in out of the backfield, in motion, etc. I think that's the best way to maximize his skills, rather than be a strict WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLchief 3,126 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He's a Superstar Gimmick player, and we should continue to embrace that. He's not Antonio Brown, a polished WR that's been a WR for years. Is he not capable of becoming a polished WR, given the proper coaching and QB? Or should we just go ahead and cut him right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 You make a compelling argument that he's progressed beyond gimmik player. And I don't mean it as any derision. I like him used in out of the backfield, in motion, etc. I think that's the best way to maximize his skills, rather than be a strict WR.Hmmmm... That is not something I considered. It might be worth a try to help get the running game going again. Kill these 7-8 in the box with some misdirection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He is a superstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He's a very good deep threat but not really a superstar. He needs to improve his presence as a possession receiver and in the slot to be a superstar. However he has the potential to be a star in the future. I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn into a poor man's Antonio Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted December 5, 2017 Share Posted December 5, 2017 He's a very good deep threat but not really a superstar. He needs to improve his presence as a possession receiver and in the slot to be a superstar. However he has the potential to be a star in the future. I wouldn't be surprised to see him turn into a poor man's Antonio Brown. exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,780 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I worry about speed guys long term. Lots of hammy pulls and other muscle issues as they get older it seems. I think if you pair Hill with a prototype #1 WR, he will be far more effective and able to make more big plays. Imagine Hill playing next to someone like Larry Fitzgerald in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 YES he's a superstar. Are you kidding?! The entire league knows about this kid. He's begging to be thrown the ball deep. If it's one on one, just chuck the damn ball as far as you can in his direction. It's not quantum entanglement, just launch him the ball. If Smith won't, Mahomes will. Then will all of you agree he is a superstar, but he's already been one the moment he first stepped on the field of an NFL game. No one may match his speed and quickness. No one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Aka CHEETAH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Is he not capable of becoming a polished WR, given the proper coaching and QB? Or should we just go ahead and cut him right now? He's got great hands and has clearly improved as a legit WR. He's far more than a gimmick player, that's for sure and likewise why he isn't returning kickoffs. The mistake was to throw him out there as our number one WR when he's still clearly learning nuances of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 He's got great hands and has clearly improved as a legit WR. He's far more than a gimmick player, that's for sure and likewise why he isn't returning kickoffs. The mistake was to throw him out there as our number one WR when he's still clearly learning nuances of position. What better way to learn than to actually play the position? I'm not sure where you're going with that. He's our superstar on the outside, defenses must respect his play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 I'm fine with hill being the number one. Gotta learn sometime. He has elite ball tracking skills, good hands and all world speed. On the job training. If he isn't a superstar now wait til mahomes gets ahold of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 What better way to learn than to actually play the position? I'm not sure where you're going with that. He's our superstar on the outside, defenses must respect his play. All of our WRs are expected to be able to play all three WR positions so having him as a second guy would have made much more sense this year while still allowing the same development. Alex didn't have a reliable WR at times this year because there was nobody he could count on to run the right route and get open. It cost us the Buffalo game. We just asked too much out of a guy still learning position is my point. I think he's a legit D Jackson type though. Maybe even potentially a bit better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Tyreek Hill, do we finally have a superstar WR? We finally have a wide receiver that might grow to become a capable WR1. The better part of his production has come as a consequence of his top-end athleticism, not because of his skills as a receiver. There's a lot of development needed there. It's nice to see him achieve what De'Anthony Thomas never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 By the way Tyreek is on pace for 75 catches for 1,150 yards and 8 TDs despite still very much learning position. Those numbers are on par with a lot of teams number ones. So the answer does appear to be yes. Between Tyreek, Kelce and Hunt we have big play guys this organization hasn't seen in a long time. Patriots don't have 3 skill position players around their QB like that. But purs are young and we have limited QB and inconsistent oline. Potential clearly there for building an elite group though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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