DieHard 2,061 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 This decision will come down to Reid. If Reid feels Mahomes isn’t yet ready then don’t be shocked to see Alex on the roster next year. It’s not what I want but you never know with this stubborn ass coach. If Alex plays out his contact and becomes a free agent, our cap space opens the same amount if we were to cut him earlier, yes? Spotrac says 20.6 to keep him and 3.6 dead money to cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Alex is an athlete playing QB, he’s not natural like Mahomes. We’re all ready for Mahomes and Mahomes is just as ready. Even if the Chiefs win the superbowl I would rather see Mahomes start next year. I’ve seen more Mahomes jerseys than Smith jerseys. The Chiefs would then make more money starting Mahomes next season. So therefore I think I answered my own curiosity if Smith has a chance of being a Chief next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 The more pertinent question is why anyone would WANT to see another year with Smith at QB rather than a guy who's ceiling is immensely higher. Havent you seen enough? He's been in the league 13 years. Is that not long enough to draw conclusions? Drafting Mahomes may have been the most exciting moment Ive experienced as a Chiefs fan in the last 20 years. And there are people who want to delay this new era? Its mind boggling. I dont give a shit if they outright release Smith for NO compensation. As long as he isnt here blocking Mahomes any longer its progress. Agreed. In other words, this season really truly means nothing unless they win the AFC championship. All eyes are for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomahawkChop 255 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I want Alex to play well for several reasons. First and foremost, it gives the Chiefs the best chance to win. Second, it increases Alex's trade value in the off-season. If he plays well the last three weeks (hopefully) I think he brings two picks in a trade. Probably a 2nd and an additional mid-late round pick. Hopefully the trade is made prior to the 2018 draft and the picks are this year. Regardless, go Alex the next three games! And then, Go Pat the next 10-years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Alex is an athlete playing QB, he’s not natural like Mahomes. We’re all ready for Mahomes and Mahomes is just as ready. Even if the Chiefs win the superbowl I would rather see Mahomes start next year. I’ve seen more Mahomes jerseys than Smith jerseys. The Chiefs would then make more money starting Mahomes next season. So therefore I think I answered my own curiosity if Smith has a chance of being a Chief next year Bullshit. He's s quarterback playing quarterback. There just are better quarterbacks out there now and in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Bullshit. He's s quarterback playing quarterback. There just are better quarterbacks out there now and in the future. It’s the truth. He’s not a natural QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 It’s the truth. He’s not a natural QB Ehh. He's inconsistent but he can do it when he lets loose. He's a quarterback playing quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I'm not prepared to go that far IMO an appearance and strong showing at the AFC Title game would be good enough unless someone offered a mid rnd 1rst pickOT, he gone my man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Ehh. He's inconsistent but he can do it when he lets loose. He's a quarterback playing quarterback.That’s just it. He throws too tight, without feel, like a consistent programmed motion. He can throw the ball and he’s smart, which is why he has gotten this far with all these wins. However the motion is not natural, it’s adopted. This is why we don’t see him make the spectacular throws needed to win big games. His arm isn’t programmed to make it, unless he feels the motion instead of going through the motion, which isn’t him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 That’s just it. He throws too tight, without feel, like a consistent programmed motion. He can throw the ball and he’s smart, which is why he has gotten this far with all these wins. However the motion is not natural, it’s adopted. This is why we don’t see him make the spectacular throws needed to win big games. His arm isn’t programmed to make it, unless he feels the motion instead of going through the motion, which isn’t him. I agree and disagree. I think he can and will at times let it be natural and play well in doing so. He's not a robot, is athletic, etc. I don't mean every improvisation is a natural made play, but he's let go before and played well. Instincts have been used before and worked well. He's not a gunslinger, but that doesn't mean it isn't natural to him. Different styles. Don't get me wrong, my objection isn't really about natural feel but rather I am saying that he's a quarterback playing quarterback. There are instincts there, not just physical ability and smarts. It's just that some other QBs are better and may have help or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 He is well above average. We make it out like he is one of the worst, but he is top ten by any measure. 6th in yards 5th in TDs 3rd in Completion percentage 1st in INTs among year long starters 7th has n yards per game 2nd in QB rating 3rd in yards per attempt It’s not like he is throwing to Pro Bowl WRs or being protected by Pro Bowl linemen. I can’t even remember the last time we had an Olineman in the Pro Bowl. I wish we would put down our torches and pitch forks once in a while. Shit, now I sound like Phat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 He is well above average. We make it out like he is one of the worst, but he is top ten by any measure. 6th in yards 5th in TDs 3rd in Completion percentage 1st in INTs among year long starters 7th has n yards per game 2nd in QB rating 3rd in yards per attempt It’s not like he is throwing to Pro Bowl WRs or being protected by Pro Bowl linemen. I can’t even remember the last time we had an Olineman in the Pro Bowl. I wish we would put down our torches and pitch forks once in a while. Shit, now I sound like Phat. Tyreek Hill is probably a pro bowler and so is Kelce. Schwartz is a top 5 RT going against the best pass rusher each team has weekly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomahawkChop 255 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 He is well above average. We make it out like he is one of the worst, but he is top ten by any measure. 6th in yards 5th in TDs 3rd in Completion percentage 1st in INTs among year long starters 7th has n yards per game 2nd in QB rating 3rd in yards per attempt It’s not like he is throwing to Pro Bowl WRs or being protected by Pro Bowl linemen. I can’t even remember the last time we had an Olineman in the Pro Bowl. I wish we would put down our torches and pitch forks once in a while. Shit, now I sound like Phat. Branden Albert, I believe. It's been awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Kelce is. Hill has never been selected as a WR, but is borderline IMO. In no way is Schwartz or anyone on our Oline Top 5. People say that, but it is not true. Schwartz has never been to a Pro Bowl RT. He is solid. Slightly above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Branden Albert, I believe. It's been awhile. Good call. 2013. We need to upgrade that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Kelce is. Hill has never been selected as a WR, but is borderline IMO. In no way is Schwartz or anyone on our Oline Top 5. People say that, but it is not true. Schwartz has never been to a Pro Bowl RT. He is solid. Slightly above average. We’ve got above average solid tackles that are pretty much on the same ability plane as Alex Smith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 There’s only a chance if the Chiefs make it to the superbowl. Let me make that clear. I don't think the threshold is that high. Smith's tasked with dragging a non-playoff roster to the post-season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Alex is an athlete playing QB, he’s not natural like Mahomes. Are we talking Alex Smith or Colin Kaepernick? I'm confused. Literally no one says that Smith is an athlete first, nor does anyone call him a running quarterback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 now I sound like Phat. What's wrong with that? It's called 'living in the land of reason and consistent logic, without prejudice, arbitrariness, or double-standard.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 I agree and disagree. I think he can and will at times let it be natural and play well in doing so. He's not a robot, is athletic, etc. I don't mean every improvisation is a natural made play, but he's let go before and played well. Instincts have been used before and worked well. He's not a gunslinger, but that doesn't mean it isn't natural to him. Different styles. Don't get me wrong, my objection isn't really about natural feel but rather I am saying that he's a quarterback playing quarterback. There are instincts there, not just physical ability and smarts. It's just that some other QBs are better and may have help or not. I agree with all of this. Smith is the man. Only 1 pro bowl offensive line in 5 seasons? Give us a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 I don't think the threshold is that high. Smith's tasked with dragging a non-playoff roster to the post-season. Won’t it be something to see Smith start for the Chiefs next season? His opportunity begins with dragging this non-playoff team to the AFC championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 16, 2017 Author Share Posted December 16, 2017 Really the only problem with Smith is he’s inconsistent play. Other than that he’s executed Reid’s offense and schemes fairly well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhataLerror 370 Posted December 16, 2017 Share Posted December 16, 2017 Won’t it be something to see Smith start for the Chiefs next season? His opportunity begins with dragging this non-playoff team to the AFC championship A few of them were alright until they all got injured (Ware, Nelson, Berry, Ford, Conley, Morse) or never healed up in the first place (Johnson, Ehinger, Hali, Houston). Actually, this year has felt like nothing more than preparing the next generation of defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted December 17, 2017 Author Share Posted December 17, 2017 Smith extended plays, made key throws. Chiefs win big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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