KC Warpaint 3,237 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 By Sam Mellinger smellinger@kcstar.com January 04, 2018 01:32 PM UPDATED January 05, 2018 04:50 PM The man who serves as the Chiefs’ official historian answered the phone. His job, at least implicitly, is to promote the franchise, so the question he’s asked probably isn’t his favorite. But, he’s a sport, so he’ll try to answer it anyway. What’s the worst playoff loss in franchise history? “Well, there’s two of them,” Bob Moore began. As an institution, the Chiefs like to think of and promote themselves as an irreplaceable part of NFL history, one of the leaders in the league and universally respected. There is some technical truth to that, particularly with founder Lamar Hunt. But it’s also true that no club in the league (and perhaps no franchise in major North American sports) exists with a wider gap between how it views itself and how it has performed in the playoffs. The Hunts like to think of the family business like the Pittsburgh Steelers, but their playoff record is much closer to that of the Browns. The Lions, Jets and, yes, Browns are the only clubs to go longer without playing in a Super Bowl. Those three are known nationally as losers in a way the Chiefs have somehow avoided. The Chiefs have won just one playoff game in 24 years, and that was against Brian Hoyer. They have won two playoff games in 46 years at Arrowhead Stadium, the same number as the Colts. The Chiefs were the winningest team of the 1990s, and only made it as far as the AFC Championship Game once. Since 1990, no team has lost more playoff games while winning fewer. So, yes, when Moore was asked this question — worst playoff loss in franchise history? — the pause is about his brain processing all the possible answers. “The one in ’95 or the one in ’97,” he said. “Because you had homefield advantage the whole way.” That’s true ... “Probably ’95,” he said. “Because the kicker missed field goals he should’ve made.” Can confirm ... Chiefs kicker Lin Elliott has the dubious distinction among Chiefs fans of being “The Player Who Shall Not Be Named.” “Although, the one down in Miami (in 1990), when Dave Szott was called for offsides and Nick Lowery missed a makable field goal, was tough, too,” he said. Yep ... “And the other one would be the one up in Buffalo (the 1993 AFC Championship), when Joe (Montana) got the concussion,” he said. Well, sure. There was that ... “But I’m not going to call the one against Indianapolis (after the 2003 season), because that was a back-and-forth game, and you’re playing a Hall of Fame quarterback who went on to win the Super Bowl,” he said. OK, guess that’s fair ... “And I wouldn’t qualify the one in Indianapolis (after the 2013 season),” he said. Sure, I mean, at some point there are so many possibilities you lose track and, wait, speaking of losing track, this is six heartbreakers in and we still haven’t talked about Christmas Day in 1971, when the team Lamar Hunt said was the greatest in franchise history lost the longest game in NFL history — 27-24 in double overtime to the Dolphins. “Well, yeah,” Moore said. “You’re right. Tell you the truth, I was just thinking about the games in my time here.” Through it all, the Chiefs are usually among the NFL’s leaders in both attendance and local TV ratings, which is a pretty good case that no fanbase in the league has been more underserved. Perhaps that’s starting to show in some real ways. Through midweek, more than twice as many tickets remained available on the secondary market than any other of the other three playoff games this weekend, and at prices that were below what fans would pay to see a Chiefs game during the regular season. This is what frustration looks like. This is what it looks like when another playoff appearance isn’t enough. AFC West championship T-shirts used to be a big deal. Now, fans have enough of those. At some point, you’re no longer impressed when your puppy does its business outside. “As fans, we’re desperate for wins, right?” said Keith Cash. “So I think there’s some desperation on our part. (The players) have to feel it, too.” You almost certainly recognize Cash’s name. He played for the Chiefs from 1992-96, a career best remembered for the touchdown he scored in a playoff win at Houston in January 1994. Cash fired the ball off a fabric poster of Oilers defensive coordinator Buddy Ryan that was hung behind the end zone. That was 24 years ago. And that moment, from an AFC divisional game against a team that no longer exists, is still the team’s greatest postseason memory since a Super Bowl win in 1969. In the decades since Cash’s celebration, the Chiefs have played in just five division-round games, all losses, most of which can be described around town with shorthand — the kicker who shall not be named, the Elvis Grbac game, and the no-punt game. The Chiefs’ particular brand of disappointment is different than most, then. The Lions, Browns, and Jets have plainly stunk for most of their existence. The Chiefs have had some terrible teams, and miserable years, but since 1990 only the Packers, Steelers, Colts, Eagles, and Patriots have made it to more postseasons. We tend to focus on quarterbacks. That’s true everywhere, but particularly here in Kansas City. Nine of the Chiefs’ 13 playoff losses since 1990 have come against quarterbacks already or likely to be inducted to the Hall of Fame. They’ve had their chances, though. One loss came when the kicker missed three times. Another on a fluky fumble. Another in a game that included a rash of concussions, and an opponent’s touchdown on a fumble off a helmet. Last year, they lost after what would’ve been the tying two-point conversion was wiped away on a questionable holding call. Since the NFL playoffs expanded to the current format, teams with a first-round bye have won 74 percent of the division games. The Chiefs are 0-5 in that spot. Twice they’ve had homefield advantage throughout the playoffs, and bupkis. When asked, Moore said he believes the Chiefs should’ve made three more Super Bowls by now, and could’ve made as many as five more without any major surprises. If they’d made three, only the Patriots, Broncos, Steelers, Bills and Giants would have more since 1990. If they’d made five, that list would shrink to just the Patriots. Instead, this franchise has let its fans down in the playoffs so often it’s hard to keep track, and you end up comparing a blown 28-point lead to a loss without punting or without giving up a touchdown. The men on this team can start to change that this weekend, to begin the process of closing the gap between what the organization thinks of itself and what it’s accomplished in the postseason. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article192969549.html#storylink=cpy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Even though I knew all this already...to see it all laid out in one article...kinda depressing. This franchise is the epitome of post season failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 We’re one of the top 5-7 regular season teams over the last 30 years but by settling for solid journeymen type QBs during that period we’ve sabatoged ourselves in January. It’s not hard to figure out. The better QB in the playoffs wins most of the time and most Super Bowls are won with elite QBs or else you need some other super elite unit and we’ve even seen that fail here in 95 and 97. This is why fan base is justifiably excited about a change in philosophy by aggressively pursuing Mahomes. And we’ve akready seen how a top tier talent can help elevate the guy ahead of him with legit competition. Alex Smith, Andy Reid and anyone who follows this team closely will tell you as much. And if we get the guy that’s now playing at higher level than he ever has, that dreaded home losing streak will end today. He deserves it and as the story intimates, we deserve it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,688 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 well we are not the Browns or Bungols so all is not soo bad. & I'd argue the year Montana got knocked out in Buffalo was not a "failure". Sam needs to get laid and enjoy what we have now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daviecrockett 5 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I don't get into the "chiefs underserve me". There are tons of reasons why those games were lost. The chiefs didn't fail me, they failed themselves. It is in their best interest to win. If they win, more people pay attention to their product and they make more money. If they lose, people find other interests. I can't imagine thinking of myself as the victim. I got nothing from his article and honestly stopped readying shortly into it. My outlook doesn't align with the general premise. I may be in the minority on this though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 well we are not the Browns or Bungols so all is not soo bad. & I'd argue the year Montana got knocked out in Buffalo was not a "failure". Sam needs to get laid and enjoy what we have now Sam is acknowledging facts. This team most certainly is not the same as the teams listed in this article, but until they win in the playoffs, we as fans will always expect the worst. This team can shed the huge 5000lb home playoff loss gorilla today and start writing its own history. Will they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I don't get into the "chiefs underserve me". There are tons of reasons why those games were lost. The chiefs didn't fail me, they failed themselves. It is in their best interest to win. If they win, more people pay attention to their product and they make more money. If they lose, people find other interests. I can't imagine thinking of myself as the victim. I got nothing from his article and honestly stopped readying shortly into it. My outlook doesn't align with the general premise. I may be in the minority on this though Visualizing yourself as a victim is silly. All I ask of any of my teams is that they are legitimately trying to win a championship. If I ever feel like they are satisfied with something below that, I’ll move on to something else. Just as you said. This franchise is one of the best in the regular season and provided countless great memories from Sept-Dec. More than most teams. But we fail miserably in January because I do believe to somewhat of an extent we settled. And that’s where apathy and even empty seats today come from. This franchise desperately needed the Mahomes pick to invigorate the fan base and emphatically say just being good isn’t good enough. And hopefully that move transcends the player himself and can elevate us because this team now knows for sure that losing in January isn’t good enough anymore. Let’s break that streak today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 I feel underserved. I hope they serve me today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If Alex Smith comes out flat, does Reid make The Mahomes move at halftime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If Alex Smith comes out flat, does Reid make The Mahomes move at halftime? He won't on both accounts. Smith won't come out flat and Reid wouldn't if he came out flat. Now if he is flat through 2 1/2 to 3 quarters, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,688 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 If Alex Smith comes out flat, does Reid make The Mahomes move at halftime? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Chiefs are 9-17 in playoffs. 17 times these fans witnessed their team ger knocked the f out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 The chiefs are a cruel mistress, painful and disappointing, but my mistress nonetheless, and I wouldn’t have anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 By Sam Mellinger smellinger@kcstar.com January 04, 2018 01:32 PM UPDATED January 05, 2018 04:50 PM The man who serves as the Chiefs’ official historian answered the phone. His job, at least implicitly, is to promote the franchise, so the question he’s asked probably isn’t his favorite. But, he’s a sport, so he’ll try to answer it anyway. What’s the worst playoff loss in franchise history? “Well, there’s two of them,” Bob Moore began. As an institution, the Chiefs like to think of and promote themselves as an irreplaceable part of NFL history, one of the leaders in the league and universally respected. There is some technical truth to that, particularly with founder Lamar Hunt. But it’s also true that no club in the league (and perhaps no franchise in major North American sports) exists with a wider gap between how it views itself and how it has performed in the playoffs. The Hunts like to think of the family business like the Pittsburgh Steelers, but their playoff record is much closer to that of the Browns. The Lions, Jets and, yes, Browns are the only clubs to go longer without playing in a Super Bowl. Those three are known nationally as losers in a way the Chiefs have somehow avoided. The Chiefs have won just one playoff game in 24 years, and that was against Brian Hoyer. They have won two playoff games in 46 years at Arrowhead Stadium, the same number as the Colts. The Chiefs were the winningest team of the 1990s, and only made it as far as the AFC Championship Game once. Since 1990, no team has lost more playoff games while winning fewer. So, yes, when Moore was asked this question — worst playoff loss in franchise history? — the pause is about his brain processing all the possible answers. “The one in ’95 or the one in ’97,” he said. “Because you had homefield advantage the whole way.” That’s true ... “Probably ’95,” he said. “Because the kicker missed field goals he should’ve made.” Can confirm ... Chiefs kicker Lin Elliott has the dubious distinction among Chiefs fans of being “The Player Who Shall Not Be Named.” “Although, the one down in Miami (in 1990), when Dave Szott was called for offsides and Nick Lowery missed a makable field goal, was tough, too,” he said. Yep ... “And the other one would be the one up in Buffalo (the 1993 AFC Championship), when Joe (Montana) got the concussion,” he said. Well, sure. There was that ... “But I’m not going to call the one against Indianapolis (after the 2003 season), because that was a back-and-forth game, and you’re playing a Hall of Fame quarterback who went on to win the Super Bowl,” he said. OK, guess that’s fair ... “And I wouldn’t qualify the one in Indianapolis (after the 2013 season),” he said. Sure, I mean, at some point there are so many possibilities you lose track and, wait, speaking of losing track, this is six heartbreakers in and we still haven’t talked about Christmas Day in 1971, when the team Lamar Hunt said was the greatest in franchise history lost the longest game in NFL history — 27-24 in double overtime to the Dolphins. “Well, yeah,” Moore said. “You’re right. Tell you the truth, I was just thinking about the games in my time here.” Through it all, the Chiefs are usually among the NFL’s leaders in both attendance and local TV ratings, which is a pretty good case that no fanbase in the league has been more underserved. Perhaps that’s starting to show in some real ways. Through midweek, more than twice as many tickets remained available on the secondary market than any other of the other three playoff games this weekend, and at prices that were below what fans would pay to see a Chiefs game during the regular season. This is what frustration looks like. This is what it looks like when another playoff appearance isn’t enough. AFC West championship T-shirts used to be a big deal. Now, fans have enough of those. At some point, you’re no longer impressed when your puppy does its business outside. “As fans, we’re desperate for wins, right?” said Keith Cash. “So I think there’s some desperation on our part. (The players) have to feel it, too.” You almost certainly recognize Cash’s name. He played for the Chiefs from 1992-96, a career best remembered for the touchdown he scored in a playoff win at Houston in January 1994. Cash fired the ball off a fabric poster of Oilers defensive coordinator Buddy Ryan that was hung behind the end zone. That was 24 years ago. And that moment, from an AFC divisional game against a team that no longer exists, is still the team’s greatest postseason memory since a Super Bowl win in 1969. In the decades since Cash’s celebration, the Chiefs have played in just five division-round games, all losses, most of which can be described around town with shorthand — the kicker who shall not be named, the Elvis Grbac game, and the no-punt game. The Chiefs’ particular brand of disappointment is different than most, then. The Lions, Browns, and Jets have plainly stunk for most of their existence. The Chiefs have had some terrible teams, and miserable years, but since 1990 only the Packers, Steelers, Colts, Eagles, and Patriots have made it to more postseasons. We tend to focus on quarterbacks. That’s true everywhere, but particularly here in Kansas City. Nine of the Chiefs’ 13 playoff losses since 1990 have come against quarterbacks already or likely to be inducted to the Hall of Fame. They’ve had their chances, though. One loss came when the kicker missed three times. Another on a fluky fumble. Another in a game that included a rash of concussions, and an opponent’s touchdown on a fumble off a helmet. Last year, they lost after what would’ve been the tying two-point conversion was wiped away on a questionable holding call. Since the NFL playoffs expanded to the current format, teams with a first-round bye have won 74 percent of the division games. The Chiefs are 0-5 in that spot. Twice they’ve had homefield advantage throughout the playoffs, and bupkis. When asked, Moore said he believes the Chiefs should’ve made three more Super Bowls by now, and could’ve made as many as five more without any major surprises. If they’d made three, only the Patriots, Broncos, Steelers, Bills and Giants would have more since 1990. If they’d made five, that list would shrink to just the Patriots. Instead, this franchise has let its fans down in the playoffs so often it’s hard to keep track, and you end up comparing a blown 28-point lead to a loss without punting or without giving up a touchdown. The men on this team can start to change that this weekend, to begin the process of closing the gap between what the organization thinks of itself and what it’s accomplished in the postseason. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/sports/spt-columns-blogs/sam-mellinger/article192969549.html#storylink=cpy Colts game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Chiefs are 9-17 in playoffs. 17 times these fans witnessed their team ger knocked the f out 9-17 is deceptive because only 1 of those victories came in in the past 25 years. This team has been a complete failure in the playoffs for a quarter-century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 606 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Let's make it 13-17 and be proud about it. Starting with 10-17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 The most disappointing playoff team of all Time. IMO. The Browns, Jets and Lions have pretty much been sucky in both the regular season and in the playoffs. The Chiefs have gone into MANY of these playoff games as favorites. Its not about the QB...Its about OWNERSHIP. Do you think Dr. Jerry Buss or Robert Kraft would have tolerated this thing for so long? How about George Steinbrenner? The Hunts have made great coin and had plenty of fun riding up this franchise which is not only profitable, it is a world class long term investment. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 The most disappointing playoff team of all Time. IMO. The Browns, Jets and Lions have pretty much been sucky in both the regular season and in the playoffs. The Chiefs have gone into MANY of these playoff games as favorites. Its not about the QB...Its about OWNERSHIP. Do you think Dr. Jerry Buss or Robert Kraft would have tolerated this thing for so long? How about George Steinbrenner? The Hunts have made great coin and had plenty of fun riding up this franchise which is not only profitable, it is a world class long term investment. w I agree. I used to harp on this for years. I quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Yes, you did. I kinda shut up about it too. But deep down, its there. One could argue that they got Marty and they got Vermeil...and they tried... But the record is the record. I am really hoping Reid breaks the jinx.... w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Yes, you did. I kinda shut up about it too. But deep down, its there. One could argue that they got Marty and they got Vermeil...and they tried... But the record is the record. I am really hoping Reid breaks the jinx.... w The lack of trying to get the stud when they could killer me. They had many chances to go all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 Yes, you did. I kinda shut up about it too. But deep down, its there. One could argue that they got Marty and they got Vermeil...and they tried... But the record is the record. I am really hoping Reid breaks the jinx.... w No one wanted to hear it anymore. I got killed for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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