MisChief-Maker 135 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 We were all guessing what we would have before Smith was traded, but now it's official I just wanted to know where we're at now? Here is what I've seen thus far. 1st round= 0 2nd round= 1 3rd round= 2 4th round= 1 (could be two because of compo from Poe?) 5th round= 0 6th round= 1 (could get another one due to Foles leaving) 7th round= 0 (we traded it away for Acker but could get one back from Zona as part of the Cooper deal) So without any compensation or trade stuff, we'd only have five picks to play with. But IF everything falls into place then it would look like this.... 1st round= 0 2nd round= 1 3rd round= 2 4th round= 2 5th round= 0 6th round= 2 7th round= 0 IF we do manage to have five picks in the first four rounds then it should give us more than enough to bring in some decent talent imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 there's another 7th coming from TEN for the David King trade. I'd be shocked if we got a 4th for Poe, more like a 5th? 2nd 3rd, 3rd 4th 5th (Poe) 6th, 6th (Foles) 7th, 7th People were saying last year in FA that Foles would net KC a 6th just due to his contract with PHI. Now with playing time and potential super bowl awards, that could get up to a 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 this says we will have 2 7ths, the rest you posted is correct. This article doesn't include the comps which should be no worse than a 5th 6th for Poe and Foles. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/news/2018-nfl-draft-kansas-city-chiefs-team-needs-draft-picks-prospects-to-watch/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Logan cancels out poe so no comp from him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 Logan cancels out poe so no comp from him Are you sure? I saw that argument on this forum a few weeks ago and someone suggested that this isn't the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,605 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Are you sure? I saw that argument on this forum a few weeks ago and someone suggested that this isn't the case? Some times it is but there are times they award one even if you gain another. The formula is so weird and no one knows what it is for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Are you sure? I saw that argument on this forum a few weeks ago and someone suggested that this isn't the case? Similar deals, playing time and stats. No chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,605 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Similar deals, playing time and stats. No chance. Not always true. They also look at it overall as did they lose more free agency than they gained? If so you could see it still. Broncos signed talib was it and lost a guy that year which looked to be a wash, but they still got a comp pick. I believe that was in the forum that was mentioned here a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,605 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 It was Talib and TJ Ward they signed in 2014. They had DRC go and released Champ Bailey and I believe they were awarded 4 comp picks in 2015 draft for these guys and all else they lost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 The overall number of FAs play a role but nothing is really certain with the weird formula, if it exists at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 I guess the NFL has a computer database that handles all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Not always true. They also look at it overall as did they lose more free agency than they gained? If so you could see it still. Broncos signed talib was it and lost a guy that year which looked to be a wash, but they still got a comp pick. I believe that was in the forum that was mentioned here a few weeks ago. Yeah sure, but the only other qualifying FA they lost besides Poe and Foles was Knile Davis and that move was a gigantic wet queef on the grand scale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 So will the pick we get for Foles be better now that he's won the SB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 I think the floor is a 5th rounder and depending how they dust off the formula and how many others are awarded, I think a 3rd could happen. At least a 4th, I'd guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 I think the floor is a 5th rounder and depending how they dust off the formula and how many others are awarded, I think a 3rd could happen. At least a 4th, I'd guess. For Foles? Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 For Foles? Nice. Yep. I'm being pessimistic, but I'd say Super Bowl MVP award will rocket his worth for tge formula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Yep. I'm being pessimistic, but I'd say Super Bowl MVP award will rocket his worth for tge formula. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 10 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 It'll have nothing to do with his post season success it's about how much he played during the season and contract he got, plus he was released so we may get no comp pick for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Post season awards absolutely factor into the comp choice formula. You're also wrong, he wasn't released. Foles had an option for a 2nd year that KC declined, which meant he became a one year player and a traditional UFA. He is a factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Hmmmmm “Rules and Formula. Compensatory picks are based on the salary, playing time and postseason honors of the free agents each team lost during the previous offseason” Foles signed a 5 year $27.5M deal with Philly BUT he had a $5M incentive for this year in his contract...not sure what it was but Super Bowl MVP seems like he might get that extra lol. So this year he cost them about $7M + $5M = $12M. I’d say $12M+Super bowl MVP gets us a 3rd in my book lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Would love another 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Hmmmmm “Rules and Formula. Compensatory picks are based on the salary, playing time and postseason honors of the free agents each team lost during the previous offseason” Foles signed a 5 year $27.5M deal with Philly BUT he had a $5M incentive for this year in his contract...not sure what it was but Super Bowl MVP seems like he might get that extra lol. So this year he cost them about $7M + $5M = $12M. I’d say $12M+Super bowl MVP gets us a 3rd in my book lol At this point I'm pretty sure we get a 3rd for Foles as the salary is decided at the end of the year with incentives. With the SB making the difference I think the first compensatory pick of the draft is very likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 Yep. I'm being pessimistic, but I'd say Super Bowl MVP award will rocket his worth for tge formula. Depends what they mean by post season honors in the formula. If it's All Pro type stuff, no. If it's playing in the postseason, and winning the Super Bowl MVP, then we should get the highest comp pick possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted February 5, 2018 Author Share Posted February 5, 2018 So this Foles situation should be interesting to see. There's no way in hell they could justify giving us a 6th round pick. So imo the least we could get is a 4th or a 5th. And the most could be a 2nd or 3rd perhaps? So we could potentially have.. 2nd= 1 3rd= 3 (Foles) 4th= 1 5th= 1 (Poe) 6th= 1 7th= 2 That would be incredible for us considering where we started from In this draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,605 Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 So this Foles situation should be interesting to see. There's no way in hell they could justify giving us a 6th round pick. So imo the least we could get is a 4th or a 5th. And the most could be a 2nd or 3rd perhaps? So we could potentially have.. 2nd= 1 3rd= 3 (Foles) 4th= 1 5th= 1 (Poe) 6th= 1 7th= 2 That would be incredible for us considering where we started from In this draft. The highest comp pick a team can receive is 3rd round, they don't award 2nd round any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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