Balto 723 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Gonna throw this out there.... Chiefs targeting a top CB in FA and want to offer them a 5-6 year contract. Knowing that doing so would mean not resigning Peters. They know Peters has issues and have been told that he asked his agent for a trade out, thus saying he won’t resign when time comes. So even trading Peters for pocket change opens the ability to give a Top FA CB a big contract and lock down the positions for longer than the max 3 years we could have left with Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Terez is intimating that Andy chose between Peters and Sutton, about 30 minutes in. Yay. https://www.facebook.com/RedZoneExtra/videos/1454194564710032 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 They're going to have a lot more stealing players like Marcus Peters for way below his market value. Now THEY have control of one of the best CB's in the NFL for peanuts.And you know this because you KNOW what the Chiefs got in return? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Part of the reason Peters is gone is because he refused to stand for the national anthem IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 And you know this because you KNOW what the Chiefs got in return? Do you? It doesn't matter, because you'll defend it anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Part of the reason Peters is gone is because he refused to stand for the national anthem IMO. I would believe more in the fact that he has total disrespect for authority. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Part of the reason Peters is gone is because he refused to stand for the national anthem IMO. I agree. And just Another reason to absolutely hate this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonder 47 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Right, let's blame this on Dorsey. Dorsey wanted to win, and knew how to win. Evidently, he's the only one in management here that did. No wonder he's gone.I understand you are a John Dorsey homer and will defend him tooth and nail like a homer, but the facts are clear. -Dorsey drafted him and said his character was not a problem. -The Chiefs gave up on him after multiple incidents questioning his character. -He’s 25 with 2 cheap years left on his contract. -Dorsey himself did not seriously consider trading for his draft pick despite having a boatload of cash AND draft picks. -Ballard, Nagy and Ballard were all here when this kid was drafted and NONE of them even inquired about a trade. -Only 1 team seriously considered trading for this kid. Those are undeniable facts. Please tell us why a 25 year old who has played like a HOF with 2 cheap years left only had literally no market? Yeah I’m sure it is Veach’s fault that Peters had zero market haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Terez is intimating that Andy chose between Peters and Sutton, about 30 minutes in. Yay. https://www.facebook.com/RedZoneExtra/videos/1454194564710032 If that's the case, this trade is even more dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 10 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 kind of strange we haven't heard what the compensation is, makes you wonder if the Chiefs are still asking for a player along with picks even though I think this trade is stupid and makes an already bad defense worse!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 If theres no first rounder involved its pretty much a fleecing. The 2 most prominent names in football media in Rappaport and Schefter are saying that they've heard there isnt. Theres just no way to get behind this if true. He cant be replaced on the field because his talent is that rare. But at least play the chess game. Hold out for a better offer than 3rd rounders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 We don’t know what value Peters has, because we don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes. One thing I will say, if there’s any truth to Reid being forced to choose between Sutton and Peters, then the coach should be chosen ever time. I’m no fan of Sutton, but if you let a player overrule a coach , you’re asking for mutiny. It sets a precedent about authority. Anyone with disagreements about that need look no further than the Patriots. No way would the model franchise of the nfl allow a player to be bigger than a coach, and the chiefs shouldn’t either. Employees don’t pick their supervisors in any walk of life. With a youth movement you can’t allow young guys to be led to believe that they are bigger than the coaches. It’s not hard, just shut up and do your job and collect your six figures a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 If theres no first rounder involved its pretty much a fleecing. The 2 most prominent names in football media in Rappaport and Schefter are saying that they've heard there isnt. Theres just no way to get behind this if true. He cant be replaced on the field because his talent is that rare. But at least play the chess game. Hold out for a better offer than 3rd rounders. Maybe he will fail the physical, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 No, I'm consistent. If Veach gets 2 Number ones Plus, what I thought was his value Before the trade, I'll praise him. Because that was his value to us. Will you pan the trade and the Chiefs under any circumstances? This is ridiculous, stop it. Literally less than 5 players have ever been traded for 2 first round picks and more. The last kind of trade like that I can recall was for Herschel walker and the moronic saints trade for Ricky Williams. You're expecting a non elite CB to get 2 fists alone is too demanding. You're talking top 3 qb return for a sub elite cb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I am very sad that he is leaving. Love his passion and competitiveness. He has numbers that come with the greats. One question. Which of those greats walk off the field at the very end of a critical game with the other team with the ball inside the 5 threatening to score. I don’t ever remember a player, especially an elite play doing that. Lots of players kneeled. Name one who did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I understand you are a John Dorsey homer and will defend him tooth and nail like a homer, but the facts are clear. -Dorsey drafted him and said his character was not a problem. -The Chiefs gave up on him after multiple incidents questioning his character. -He’s 25 with 2 cheap years left on his contract. -Dorsey himself did not seriously consider trading for his draft pick despite having a boatload of cash AND draft picks. -Ballard, Nagy and Ballard were all here when this kid was drafted and NONE of them even inquired about a trade. -Only 1 team seriously considered trading for this kid. Those are undeniable facts. Please tell us why a 25 year old who has played like a HOF with 2 cheap years left only had literally no market? Yeah I’m sure it is Veach’s fault that Peters had zero market haha Yeah it actually is. Pretty simple. He's worth more to the Chiefs, then what his market is currently, then don't trade him. And of course, your Dorsey homer nonsense has been proven false continuously. But when it's all ya got, it's all ya got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I mean ever. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonder 47 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 This is ridiculous, stop it. Literally less than 5 players have ever been traded for 2 first round picks and more. The last kind of trade like that I can recall was for Herschel walker and the moronic saints trade for Ricky Williams. You're expecting a non elite CB to get 2 fists alone is too demanding. You're talking top 3 qb return for a sub elite cb. Didn’t you hear? Veach is supposed to get like 10 first rd picks for this guy despite only 1 team being seiously interested. ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 If theres no first rounder involved its pretty much a fleecing. The 2 most prominent names in football media in Rappaport and Schefter are saying that they've heard there isnt. Theres just no way to get behind this if true. He cant be replaced on the field because his talent is that rare. But at least play the chess game. Hold out for a better offer than 3rd rounders. Hard to do with 2 teams interested. If we got fleeced we would've already heard the return imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I heard the 49ers were also interested in trading for Peters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 If Veach didn't get a 1 than lmao The Rams don't even have a 2 this year, so the Chiefs will absolutely get hosed on comp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,016 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Would anyone take Sammy Watkins and a 3rd?No way. Watkins and a first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 This is ridiculous, stop it. Literally less than 5 players have ever been traded for 2 first round picks and more. The last kind of trade like that I can recall was for Herschel walker and the moronic saints trade for Ricky Williams. You're expecting a non elite CB to get 2 fists alone is too demanding. You're talking top 3 qb return for a sub elite cb. Keyshawn Johnson was traded for 2 #1's. After his 4th year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablueguy 0 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I am very sad that he is leaving. Love his passion and competitiveness. He has numbers that come with the greats. One question. Which of those greats walk off the field at the very end of a critical game with the other team with the ball inside the 5 threatening to score. I don’t ever remember a player, especially an elite play doing that. Lots of players kneeled. Name one who did that. I called for Marcus's suspension for that stupidity. He was suspended, and he came back and played the best football of his career after he was properly punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I wouldn't mind getting draft picks and WR Josh Reynolds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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