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Peters was KC's first look at a particular brand of unfettered Blackness. We're used to the well-spoken (Priest), humble (E Berry), big smiling (LoCain) brothers. But Marcus was raw and abrasive and outspoken. He shook this city's Whiteness to it's core. And we couldn't deal.

Bullshit just another KC Star shit stirrer. There is a reason they are going down the tubes.
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Everyone knows we wanted to dump Peters and almost nobody wanted a cheap Pro Bowl player. So what makes anyone think we are getting a 1st rounder much less all that. Just a gross misunderstanding of how things work.

This wasn’t a great day for the Chiefs, rather an organization that had enough and was willing to move on with only one real bidder.

Just mind boggling how people don’t get that if a player of this caliber got that little interest, clearly something was very wrong.

DEFEND, DEFEND, DEFEND, at all costs.  It is so funny and telling how the narrative has changed.  

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Everyone knows we wanted to dump Peters and almost nobody wanted a cheap Pro Bowl player. So what makes anyone think we are getting a 1st rounder much less all that. Just a gross misunderstanding of how things work.

This wasn’t a great day for the Chiefs, rather an organization that had enough and was willing to move on with only one real bidder.

Just mind boggling how people don’t get that if a player of this caliber got that little interest, clearly something was very wrong.

We don’t know who was interested. And we won’t.
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So a person that has access to the Chiefs and has played for them says something different then you want to here and they know nothing. Please get a real life.

I am allowed to disagree with him.   OTOH, I agree with the guy who posted this 2 days ago.  Wonder what happened to him ?:  I have and always will be critical of players on the defense that can't tackle. However, everyone likes to talk about how great Deion Sanders was but he averaged 35 tackles, 3 ints and .7 pass deflections per year. Peters is averaging 43 tackles, 6 ints and 18 pass deflations per year. 

I know, I hate the attitude also but do you really get rid of guy with this kind of talent? 

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I am allowed to disagree with him. OTOH, I agree with the guy who posted this 2 days ago. Wonder what happened to him ?: I have and always will be critical of players on the defense that can't tackle. However, everyone likes to talk about how great Deion Sanders was but he averaged 35 tackles, 3 ints and .7 pass deflections per year. Peters is averaging 43 tackles, 6 ints and 18 pass deflations per year.

I know, I hate the attitude also but do you really get rid of guy with this kind of talent?

He's right here and still believe that but I have also said no player is bigger than the team. Also I have said the name on the back of the jersey means nothing to me. None of that contradicts anything I have said today. I can respect a players talent without respecting the player themself.

 

I also do not know what is going on inside 1 Arrowhead Drive and neither do you or anyone else in here.

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Keitzman said everyone tried taking to Peters last year and he wouldn’t have it. Everyone. Andy, Clark, Veach.

 

He didn’t buy in. He’s a freaking cancer. And it would have been far worse if he had stayed.

Keitzman also said Dorsey went rogue and drafted Mahomes, and that Andy didn't want him, and was appalled at how bad he looked in camp.  

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He's right here and still believe that but I have also said no player is bigger than the team. Also I have said the name on the back of the jersey means nothing to me. None of that contradicts anything I have said today. I can respect a players talent without respecting the player themself.

 

I also do not know what is going on inside 1 Arrowhead Drive and neither do you or anyone else in here.

What I do know, and what everybody knows, inside and outside  of 1 Arrowhead drive,  is that we had one of the best CB's in the NFL, and BY FAR the best Turnover Defensive player in the NFL on the cheap for 3 years.   

And we gave him up, likely for peanuts, when there was no need to.   

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And we gave him up, likely for peanuts, when there was no need to.

We, do you have a mouse in your pocket? To say we like you're part of the Chiefs is little presumptuous isn't it? Obviously you don't speak for the Chiefs because they did make the deal and again WE as in outsiders have no clue what they got for him.

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What I do know, and what everybody knows, inside and outside  of 1 Arrowhead drive,  is that we had one of the best CB's in the NFL, and BY FAR the best Turnover Defensive player in the NFL on the cheap for 3 years.   

And we gave him up, likely for peanuts, when there was no need to.   

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So a person that has access to the Chiefs and has played for them says something different then you want to here and they know nothing. Please get a real life

 

 

All the talking heads have opinions. They are often wrong.  Chiefs let a great player go to a team that is going for it. Rams want to win now and KC is playing for 2019.

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Another spot on article:

 

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By: Jason Lisk | 8 hours ago  

Marcus Peters, an all-pro cornerback who just turned 25 years old and has 19 career interceptions, will be traded to the Los Angeles Rams at the start of the league year, according to multiple reports.

 

Marcus Peters to LA Rams trade is now officially agreed to, per source; cannot be processed until March 14. But Peters expected to be a Ram.

 
 

 

That trade comes at the end of a volatile season for Marcus Peters in Kansas City. He was in the center of a melee at Oakland (his hometown) where he hit Derek Carr, and several players rushed in, and it appeared his friend Marshawn Lynch came off the bench to protect him and got ejected and suspended. He threw a penalty flag in the stands and walked off the field in a game against the Jets. That resulted in the team issuing a one-game suspension to Peters.

Oh, and he was the most vocal and prominent Chiefs player when it came to kneeling for the national anthem. Back in November, Clark Hunt revealed he had spoken with Peters about kneeling during the national anthem.

“When it rolled around last year, it really wasn’t a big deal for us, and we’ve tried to stay with that this year,” Hunt said. “Obviously we’ve had some guys who have sat or knelt during some of the games this year, but we’ve continued to work with them and communicate with them that we prefer for them to stand.

Just a few days ago, after Mike Florio had first reported that Peters could be traded, Jason La Canfora had this in an article:

From what I am hearing from other NFL teams, the Chiefs haven’t made an overture toward trading Marcus Peters to this point, but other clubs anticipate his name coming up next week at the combine. Owner Clark Hunt has some concerns with Peters’ actions last season, as I hear it, and some of his unusual behavior during games, and he might not be long for Kansas City.

Now, you are not going to get anyone to put a specific percentage on how much the anthem kneeling had to do with this trade and the urgency to get him out of town, relative to other incidents, but I’ll note that Travis Kelce has a lengthy history of impulsive, taunting behavior in games that have at times cost the team. Before the first game, he talked about being more professional and then took all of three quarters before he got a taunting flag. No one is talking about trading him away as a top contributor at tight end.

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Right after that December suspension, Sam Mellinger wrote an excellent article on Marcus Peters and his tricky relationship with Kansas City. Here’s what Kansas City mayor Sly James said in the piece:

“Look, Marcus is from Oakland. That’s a totally different cultural environment than Kansas City, especially for black folks. Kansas City is much more laid back. Been described as ‘Kansas City Nice.’ He’s not ‘Kansas City Nice.’

“I don’t mean that as he’s not nice. He simply has a different approach. I don’t have a problem with that approach. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it wasn’t for his approach. A lot of people wouldn’t be having this conversation without him, and it makes them uncomfortable, but that’s OK.”

Mellinger also quoted one team source as saying “it’s trickier here” in regard to Marcus Peters and kneeling during the national anthem because of the number of military installations that are within the team fanbase geographical footprint.

But even if the controversy is not directly impacting the Chiefs’ business, the club still considers it a problem and remains mostly vexed about what to do with it.

Kansas City is a conservative market, with a strong military presence, and a general expectation that athletes stay in line. Peters might be the most expressive and unapologetic athlete in Kansas City history. He has expressed support of the military and belief in America’s future but is not interested in repeating the point or following any cultural norms.

One team source described the situation as “complicated,” and noted that Peters is a leader in the locker room. No easy answers exist with a player unmoved to make his case publicly and a fan base that is at least largely unmoved to listen anyway.

So how much was the national anthem protest, and the response of a segment of the Kansas City fanbase, a factor? You don’t just trade away a cost-controlled star cornerback like this. Peters is entering the fourth year of his rookie deal, and then the team could exercise his fifth-year option (and since he was drafted outside the top ten it would be very reasonable) and then you could franchise him for a year even if you did not want to get into a long-term deal.

It had become a case in Kansas City where views of Peters and his social activism bled over into criticism of him as a player. It was impossible not to view vocal complaints about his tackling or attitude during games without catching things through a political lens. The protests were very much a factor. That doesn’t mean necessarily that Clark Hunt insisted on trading him because of a personal viewpoint. It does at least mean that a vocal segment of the fanbase, and Peters’ view of that reaction, were issues that made a longterm relationship unlikely.

I’ll share a personal story that demonstrates some of that. I was at the playoff game at Arrowhead as a fan. After that gut-punch loss we proceeded back to the parking lot where a group of our tailgaters included one who was vocally ripping on Peters. Now, if you watched that game–where Peters had an interception, came up to make lots of plays, and nearly forced a decisive fumble late–and came away thinking he was the problem in that loss, I’m going to believe that you have a bias that goes beyond football. The rest of us were mocking and disagreeing with that viewpoint.

And that’s when Marcus Peters himself pulled up. He had apparently bolted from the stadium in a hurry right after the game (this had to be less than 10 minutes after its conclusion). Traffic was heavy to get out of the stadium, and the road passed right by where we were standing. Peters, with his window rolled down, yelled at the guy criticizing him, calling him “hella weak.” Here is a tweet commemorating that incident.

 

My buddy (Trump guy) was just unfairly doing some hating on @marcuspeters in the parking lot. MP22 drives up and overhears his talking shit and straight clowned him calling him “hella weak”. 1f44a-1f3fc.png sorry, MP22 my friend is a dumbass. U played ur ass off, great season. I’m dying! 1f602.png

 
 

 

Now, most of us laughed at the guy who just got called out by Peters in the parking lot (trust me, there were lots of jokes made at his expense). But Peters, with his window down, being on edge and listening and hearing the criticism of one fan on the way out of the stadium? I think that shows where he was in his frustration.

We all know that online, you might hear from the vocal 5%–who do not represent the majority–and it can seem like there is a lot of criticism out there. Imagine what it would sound like if you are Peters in a market where closer to 50% may criticize your tackling but you know what is really driving it. It must sound like the whole city, even if that’s not true.

One of the writers at Arrowhead Pride says that he has heard now that Peters demanded a trade right after what I observed following that playoff loss.

 

Just had a source who has provided me good info in the past tell me Marcus Peters requested a trade after the Titans playoff loss.

No, I'm not kidding.

 
 

 

Did the kneeling impact this trade? You bet it did. Whether it was the Chiefs realizing that the fanbase had issues with Peters where no one would listen, or he had issues with the fanbase, it seemed things were at a tipping point as he took off from the stadium after that last loss. Now, you might think a franchise would consider that, but think he was too good to give up on, but they might have worried about his attitude if things continued to precipitate, and if he had already checked out on staying in the city.

I think this trade to Los Angeles will be a great move for Peters. He won’t hear as much criticism when he speaks out in L.A., and it won’t be ignored when he helps underprivileged children. He’ll be a ballhawk on a team that has Aaron Donald breathing on the QB every play. I’m not sure how it will work out for Kansas City, but for now, a sizeable minority fans got what they wanted, getting rid of guy that they think won’t tackle.

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Another spot on article:

 

Marcus Peters' Kneeling During National Anthem Was Factor in Trade Away From Kansas City usatsi_10251261_153192880_lowres.jpg?w=1
 
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By: Jason Lisk | 8 hours ago  

Marcus Peters, an all-pro cornerback who just turned 25 years old and has 19 career interceptions, will be traded to the Los Angeles Rams at the start of the league year, according to multiple reports.

 

Marcus Peters to LA Rams trade is now officially agreed to, per source; cannot be processed until March 14. But Peters expected to be a Ram.

 
 

 

That trade comes at the end of a volatile season for Marcus Peters in Kansas City. He was in the center of a melee at Oakland (his hometown) where he hit Derek Carr, and several players rushed in, and it appeared his friend Marshawn Lynch came off the bench to protect him and got ejected and suspended. He threw a penalty flag in the stands and walked off the field in a game against the Jets. That resulted in the team issuing a one-game suspension to Peters.

Oh, and he was the most vocal and prominent Chiefs player when it came to kneeling for the national anthem. Back in November, Clark Hunt revealed he had spoken with Peters about kneeling during the national anthem.

“When it rolled around last year, it really wasn’t a big deal for us, and we’ve tried to stay with that this year,” Hunt said. “Obviously we’ve had some guys who have sat or knelt during some of the games this year, but we’ve continued to work with them and communicate with them that we prefer for them to stand.

Just a few days ago, after Mike Florio had first reported that Peters could be traded, Jason La Canfora had this in an article:

From what I am hearing from other NFL teams, the Chiefs haven’t made an overture toward trading Marcus Peters to this point, but other clubs anticipate his name coming up next week at the combine. Owner Clark Hunt has some concerns with Peters’ actions last season, as I hear it, and some of his unusual behavior during games, and he might not be long for Kansas City.

Now, you are not going to get anyone to put a specific percentage on how much the anthem kneeling had to do with this trade and the urgency to get him out of town, relative to other incidents, but I’ll note that Travis Kelce has a lengthy history of impulsive, taunting behavior in games that have at times cost the team. Before the first game, he talked about being more professional and then took all of three quarters before he got a taunting flag. No one is talking about trading him away as a top contributor at tight end.

usatsi_9813104_153192880_lowres.jpg?w=64

Right after that December suspension, Sam Mellinger wrote an excellent article on Marcus Peters and his tricky relationship with Kansas City. Here’s what Kansas City mayor Sly James said in the piece:

“Look, Marcus is from Oakland. That’s a totally different cultural environment than Kansas City, especially for black folks. Kansas City is much more laid back. Been described as ‘Kansas City Nice.’ He’s not ‘Kansas City Nice.’

“I don’t mean that as he’s not nice. He simply has a different approach. I don’t have a problem with that approach. We wouldn’t be having this conversation if it wasn’t for his approach. A lot of people wouldn’t be having this conversation without him, and it makes them uncomfortable, but that’s OK.”

Mellinger also quoted one team source as saying “it’s trickier here” in regard to Marcus Peters and kneeling during the national anthem because of the number of military installations that are within the team fanbase geographical footprint.

But even if the controversy is not directly impacting the Chiefs’ business, the club still considers it a problem and remains mostly vexed about what to do with it.

Kansas City is a conservative market, with a strong military presence, and a general expectation that athletes stay in line. Peters might be the most expressive and unapologetic athlete in Kansas City history. He has expressed support of the military and belief in America’s future but is not interested in repeating the point or following any cultural norms.

One team source described the situation as “complicated,” and noted that Peters is a leader in the locker room. No easy answers exist with a player unmoved to make his case publicly and a fan base that is at least largely unmoved to listen anyway.

So how much was the national anthem protest, and the response of a segment of the Kansas City fanbase, a factor? You don’t just trade away a cost-controlled star cornerback like this. Peters is entering the fourth year of his rookie deal, and then the team could exercise his fifth-year option (and since he was drafted outside the top ten it would be very reasonable) and then you could franchise him for a year even if you did not want to get into a long-term deal.

It had become a case in Kansas City where views of Peters and his social activism bled over into criticism of him as a player. It was impossible not to view vocal complaints about his tackling or attitude during games without catching things through a political lens. The protests were very much a factor. That doesn’t mean necessarily that Clark Hunt insisted on trading him because of a personal viewpoint. It does at least mean that a vocal segment of the fanbase, and Peters’ view of that reaction, were issues that made a longterm relationship unlikely.

I’ll share a personal story that demonstrates some of that. I was at the playoff game at Arrowhead as a fan. After that gut-punch loss we proceeded back to the parking lot where a group of our tailgaters included one who was vocally ripping on Peters. Now, if you watched that game–where Peters had an interception, came up to make lots of plays, and nearly forced a decisive fumble late–and came away thinking he was the problem in that loss, I’m going to believe that you have a bias that goes beyond football. The rest of us were mocking and disagreeing with that viewpoint.

And that’s when Marcus Peters himself pulled up. He had apparently bolted from the stadium in a hurry right after the game (this had to be less than 10 minutes after its conclusion). Traffic was heavy to get out of the stadium, and the road passed right by where we were standing. Peters, with his window rolled down, yelled at the guy criticizing him, calling him “hella weak.” Here is a tweet commemorating that incident.

 

My buddy (Trump guy) was just unfairly doing some hating on
in the parking lot. MP22 drives up and overhears his talking shit and straight clowned him calling him “hella weak”.
1f44a-1f3fc.png
sorry, MP22 my friend is a dumbass. U played ur ass off, great season. I’m dying!
1f602.png

 
 

 

Now, most of us laughed at the guy who just got called out by Peters in the parking lot (trust me, there were lots of jokes made at his expense). But Peters, with his window down, being on edge and listening and hearing the criticism of one fan on the way out of the stadium? I think that shows where he was in his frustration.

We all know that online, you might hear from the vocal 5%–who do not represent the majority–and it can seem like there is a lot of criticism out there. Imagine what it would sound like if you are Peters in a market where closer to 50% may criticize your tackling but you know what is really driving it. It must sound like the whole city, even if that’s not true.

One of the writers at Arrowhead Pride says that he has heard now that Peters demanded a trade right after what I observed following that playoff loss.

 

Just had a source who has provided me good info in the past tell me Marcus Peters requested a trade after the Titans playoff loss.

 

No, I'm not kidding.

 
 

 

Did the kneeling impact this trade? You bet it did. Whether it was the Chiefs realizing that the fanbase had issues with Peters where no one would listen, or he had issues with the fanbase, it seemed things were at a tipping point as he took off from the stadium after that last loss. Now, you might think a franchise would consider that, but think he was too good to give up on, but they might have worried about his attitude if things continued to precipitate, and if he had already checked out on staying in the city.

I think this trade to Los Angeles will be a great move for Peters. He won’t hear as much criticism when he speaks out in L.A., and it won’t be ignored when he helps underprivileged children. He’ll be a ballhawk on a team that has Aaron Donald breathing on the QB every play. I’m not sure how it will work out for Kansas City, but for now, a sizeable minority fans got what they wanted, getting rid of guy that they think won’t tackle.

 

If he didn't want to be here then fuck 'em. Why expect someone who has made it clear he is unhappy to give 100%? Why do you keep copying and pasting whole articles that take up a whole page? Isn't a link good enough?

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Im sure Peters will enjoy LA. The RAMS are going for it and a bigger market for endorsements.. May not work out for the RAMS but at least they are showing some courage.

 

Hey I complained when KC drafted this guy based on his character  and many on this board got on me. Now the Chiefs change their toon/attitude and the same people that supported him being drafted are running him out of town. 

 

Chiefs way is never consistent. No clear plan. 

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If he didn't want to be here then fuck 'em. Why expect someone who has made it clear he is unhappy to give 100%? Why do you keep copying and pasting whole articles that take up a whole page? Isn't a link good enough?

Plenty of players don't want to be where they are, and give 100%, to win, and to get paid.   I could care less if Peters wanted to be a Chief or not.  He was a Chief, and had to be for 3 more years, at least.   

These articles are worth reading, IMO.   They give a POV which needs to be heard.  

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Im sure Peters will enjoy LA. The RAMS are going for it and a bigger market for endorsements.. May not work out for the RAMS but at least they are showing some courage.

 

Hey I complained when KC drafted this guy based on his character  and many on this board got on me. Now the Chiefs change their toon/attitude and the same people that supported him being drafted are running him out of town. 

 

Chiefs way is never consistent. No clear plan. 

Hypocrites be Hypocriting.  Whatever they have to do to defend the Chiefs.  

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Plenty of players don't want to be where they are, and give 100%, to win, and to get paid.   I could care less if Peters wanted to be a Chief or not.  He was a Chief, and had to be for 3 more years, at least.   

These articles are worth reading, IMO.   They give a POV which needs to be heard.  

Right. And the articles can be read by clicking on a link. quit cluttering up the page.  :lol: And if this regime decides they only want players on their team who want to be here and are all in, then that's their prerogative. i agree taking less than fair value is dumb, instead of just holding him, but it seems that this guy has a bad enough reputation that not many teams were in on him. So we get whatever they agree to, and we move on. They will still be a good team. And one with less headaches.

 

Seriously if the owner of this team met with him face to face and left the meeting saying "this guy just doesn't get it", then why would you think he would continued to be employeed here?

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Right. And the articles can be read by clicking on a link. quit cluttering up the page.  :lol: And if this regime decides they only want players on their team who want to be here and are all in, then that's their prerogative. i agree taking less than fair value is dumb, instead of just holding him, but it seems that this guy has a bad enough reputation that not many teams were in on him. So we get whatever they agree to, and we move on. They will still be a good team. And one with less headaches.

 

Seriously if the owner of this team met with him face to face and left the meeting saying "this guy just doesn't get it", then why would you think he would continued to be employeed here?

I don't like the owner of the team I root for making non Football decisions, that hurt the team on the field.  Just another reason to hold Clark in even more contempt.  

Remember this guy.   Last week He was pretty smart:    :D

 

Yeah hes not going anywhere. Theres nothing here but baseless speculation. They cant replace Peters no matter what kind of compensation they got back, because corners with hiis ability flat arent available every year. In my opinion he is the best cover corner in football and can be controlled for 2 more years on a rookie deal. Thats not someone to move on from.

 

Veach has stated that his methodology includes building through the draft, RETAINING THEIR OWN SECOND CONTRACT PLAYERS, and being selective in outside free agency. 

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I don't like the owner of the team I root for making non Football decisions, that hurt the team on the field.  Just another reason to hold Clark in even more contempt.  

Remember this guy.   Last week He was pretty smart:    :D

 

Yeah hes not going anywhere. Theres nothing here but baseless speculation. They cant replace Peters no matter what kind of compensation they got back, because corners with hiis ability flat arent available every year. In my opinion he is the best cover corner in football and can be controlled for 2 more years on a rookie deal. Thats not someone to move on from.

 

Veach has stated that his methodology includes building through the draft, RETAINING THEIR OWN SECOND CONTRACT PLAYERS, and being selective in outside free agency. 

I heard Veach say it myself from the Senior Bowl. I'm not happy about it. I'm not really upset about it. I honestly thought it was BS that Florio was just putting out there to fill space. But I certainly didn't know at that time that our owner had sat down with the guy and came away with the opinion that he couldn't be reached. That probably sealed his fate. I'm accepting of it. Just worried about comp. 

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We'll see. If my best case scenario with no 1sts, of a 3rd and 4th this year, 2nd and 3rd next year, came to pass(or worse), would you agree we were fleeced?

 

 

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I just don't think we can expect that much for a sub elite CB with a bad attitude. I think he's a great player but PFF had him 17th so we can't homer it and think he's the best CB in the league.

 

You're still quoting and expecting top qb returns.

 

My guess is the Chiefs want a player and picks and that's why it's taking so long.

Remember this guy?   What changed in 2 days?  

 

Big mistake to trade Peters. The compensation would have to be astronomical.

 

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