liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Yep. He’s still a monster. Well that can't be. Posters here have declared he sucks and is washed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleydawg 60 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Not really. Chris Jones had a good year.Jones had his moments, but he was not consistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Jones had his moments, but he was not consistent For a 34 d end jones wrecked people this year. Of course he didn't do it every play. Nobody does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 Agree that Houston, Jones and Ragland were very good last year. I think they will all have great years this year. I can’t say that I am in the camp of makeup Ng the best all round OLB in the league a pass rushing specialist. I like how he is used now. Trouble is we had to put so many DBs on the field that we basically had 2 linemen. A more traditional approach if we can cover the WRs in press will result in more sacks for Houston IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleydawg 60 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 For a 34 d end jones wrecked people this year. Of course he didn't do it every play. Nobody does. He was our best lineman, no doubt. I knew we were in real trouble against Tennessee when he limped off the field. But he also disappeared for long stretches. Houston brought it every game imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West 6,714 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 I think the Chiefs were doing their best to protect Houston last year. I am not sure he was 100% and teams kept trying to cut block him on that knee. w Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 The RUMOR is that the chiefs are going to go back to press coverage from the secondary this season, effectively ending “band don’t break” in KC. If that happens, the pass rush is back on. We will greatly benefit from having Houston on the line if that happens...but seriously, Houston had a great all around last season, he just did a bunch of things that don’t show up on a stat sheet for us to oogle over. God willing, we use this money we have to get some DLine help and let Houston get back to Doo g what he does bestSutton has had no choice the last two years but to abandon a lot of the press coverage. We simply haven’t had corners to pull it off since 2015. Likewise last year we also had only one pass rusher. I know people think Sutton’s awful but reality is we didn’t have players to run his scheme. And Houston’s diversity needed to be used as such. That said it’s inexcusable Justin Houston was tasked to cover Antonio Brown on several critical plays that likeky cost us playoff gane. That and of course Alex missing Tyreek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Never played as a CB or safety (and honestly not watching them as close as the front 7) I might be off base here. My opinion is that KC played the way they did to protect the DBs. Their arguably best DB was out, the, in some circles minds, best CB in the league didn't always line up on the best receivers. Limited CB skill sets on the other side basically forced KC to play some hybrid defense to cover up their lack of ability to actual cover the field. I never understood the Shermans and Peters of the NFL who primarily or always played on one side and didn't go head to head with the opponent's best receivers. How can one call themselves the best when they don't cover the best? Smart teams just put their best on the opposite side and threw against KC on a regular basis. Like I said I'm not a DB and never desired to be one so this is just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Uh, you do know that's 100% on Bob Sutton and not the players...right? Not moving corners around has zero to do with Peters. The dbs played so far off to keep the play in front and for as minimal as possible gains because they had zero faith in the rush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I think the Chiefs were doing their best to protect Houston last year. I am not sure he was 100% and teams kept trying to cut block him on that knee. w I think you are right. The scary situation the year before with Denver game and not being the same. I think he and they didn’t run those spin moves because of that outside knee. I think it was more precautionary than swelling this time. He should have his full tool box this year. I think he is going to be pretty dominant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 It's always about COMPENSATION. If someone offers something good then consider it. Why was 810am saying Justin Houston failed to show up when single teamed on many plays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 It's always about COMPENSATION. If someone offers something good then consider it. Why was 810am saying Justin Houston failed to show up when single teamed on many plays? Because they're morons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Because they're morons? This. Cant figure out that hes basically setting the edge and keeping contain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 That and we saw him handled more easily last year by one RT. I will say he was held a lot but that isn’t new. I think it is fair to say he was not the pass rushing threat he has been in the past. That is likely the point they are making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Uh, you do know that's 100% on Bob Sutton and not the players...right? Not moving corners around has zero to do with Peters. The dbs played so far off to keep the play in front and for as minimal as possible gains because they had zero faith in the rush. According to Peters himself, he has only traveled a few time in his entire career, both college and pros. So how much of this deals with Suttons players versus their capabilities. Sutton allowed Revis to travel in NY, but I guess Revis was more talented that his coached allowed him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 According to Peters himself, he has only traveled a few time in his entire career, both college and pros. So how much of this deals with Suttons players versus their capabilities. Sutton allowed Revis to travel in NY, but I guess Revis was more talented that his coached allowed him to. He didn't dictate anything in NY. Didn't flip his corners at all in KC, regardless of who the corners were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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