Balto 723 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Bigger edge guys Joey bosa 6'5" 280 JJ Watt 6'6" 290 Jedaveon clowney 6'5" 275 Carlos Dunlop 6'6" 280 Michael Johnson 6'7" 275 Bud Dupree 6'5" 270 Myles Garrett 6'5" 275 JPP 6'5" 280 Taco Charlton 6'5" 275 Chandler Jones 6'5" 270 Cameron Jordan 6'5" 290 Ezekiel ansah 6'5" 280 Wow never even thought about Michael Johnson. I’d say most will say he has never performed up to his potential but his career hasn’t been too bad. I think Johnson is a very good comparison for Kpass atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Wow never even thought about Michael Johnson. I’d say most will say he has never performed up to his potential but his career hasn’t been too bad. I think Johnson is a very good comparison for Kpass atm. I'm definitely not saying this means Kpass is good. But he can definitely play on the edge at his size and athleticism. It will be interesting to see how he develops. One thing he does well is bends around the corner. He has flexibility, which is great for a pass rusher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Bigger edge guys Joey bosa 6'5" 280 Plays in a 43 with hand on the ground JJ Watt 6'6" 290 Plays DE in a 34 Jedaveon clowney 6'5" 275 Carlos Dunlop 6'6" 280 Plays with hand on the ground in a 43 Michael Johnson 6'7" 275 Plays with hand on the ground in a 43 Bud Dupree 6'5" 270 Myles Garrett 6'5" 275 Plays with hand on the ground in a 43 JPP 6'5" 280 Plays with hand on the ground in a 43 Taco Charlton 6'5" 275 Plays with hand on the ground in a 43 Chandler Jones 6'5" 270 Cameron Jordan 6'5" 290 Plays with hand on the ground in a 43 Ezekiel ansah 6'5" 280 Plays with hand on the ground in a 43 So literally 3 of those guys play the position that we are discussing. A stand-up 34 OLB. None of those 3 are as big as Tanoh. And in those 3 you are comparing him to a former number one overall pick in the draft, one of the best pass rushers in the NFL in Jones and a guy with 14 total career sacks in Dupree. This is not the kind of info that would change my opinion. This is the kind of info that strengthens it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I don't think he will have the explosiveness needed to consistently beat tackles. I don't think he is a natural pass rusher. I think they are forcing it. I think of speed rushers as guys in the 250-265 range and I think about 95% of them fall in there. I could be mistaken. I hope I am if they leave him at OLB. And don't start talking to me about Julius peppers please. He is a future Hall of Famer and a freak of nature. You didn't say anything about 3-4? You said he wasn't explosive enough because of his size. I was showing explosive edge guys at our around his size. Don't change the goal posts here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 You didn't say anything about 3-4? You said he wasn't explosive enough because of his size. I was showing explosive edge guys at our around his size. Don't change the goal posts here "Because I simply dont believe in him as a pass rusher at OLB. Simple as that. I hope Im wrong. And I sure didnt say anything about him "ballooning up". He carries 290 just fine." This is my quote from this same thread. I didnt know I needed to specify that I meant OLB in a 34. Its the base defense we use. Everyone knows that. I figured it was implied. You couldnt have possibly thought I meant OLB in a 43. So when I said this, yes I was referring to the defense that the Chiefs run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Still think it’s funny you say we can’t use the Peppers example but you use Calais Campbell one. Lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 So literally 3 of those guys play the position that we are discussing. A stand-up 34 OLB. None of those 3 are as big as Tanoh. And in those 3 you are comparing him to a former number one overall pick in the draft, one of the best pass rushers in the NFL in Jones and a guy with 14 total career sacks in Dupree. This is not the kind of info that would change my opinion. This is the kind of info that strengthens it. I’d also say that most 4-3 DEs and 3-4 DEs are interchangeable. While most 4-3 DTs and 3-4 DEs are also interchangeable. Thus showing that atheism list is valid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,606 Posted March 10, 2018 Author Share Posted March 10, 2018 Wilkerson visiting the Chiefs today. Adam TeicherESPN Staff Writer The Chiefs are visiting Saturday with former Jets defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson, according to ESPN's Josina Anderson. The Chiefs could soon be losing starting nose tackle Bennie Logan, who is a potential unrestricted free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 That's the thing....Tuck would of been a OLB in a 3-4 D. Does that help?o Heres what I found in a story where John Dorsey was talking about Tanohs role. When the Chiefs are two-gapping, he will be playing as a five-technique (lined up over the tackle and responsible for B and C gaps) and then sliding down to three-technique (lines up on the outside shoulder of the guard) in obvious pass rushing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Wilkerson is visiting the Chiefs today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 "Because I simply dont believe in him as a pass rusher at OLB. Simple as that. I hope Im wrong. And I sure didnt say anything about him "ballooning up". He carries 290 just fine." This is my quote from this same thread. I didnt know I needed to specify that I meant OLB in a 34. Its the base defense we use. Everyone knows that. I figured it was implied. You couldnt have possibly thought I meant OLB in a 43. So when I said this, yes I was referring to the defense that the Chiefs run. Well the athleticism and explosiveness of the edge still stand. Even at those sizes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 He must of gotten a thumbs up. The Chiefs are visiting Saturday with former Jets defensive lineman Muhammad Wilkerson, according to ESPN's Josina Anderson. The Chiefs could soon be losing starting nose tackle Bennie Logan, who is a potential unrestricted free agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 I guess they are looking to upgrade Bailey. Makes sense if the price is right. Let's see what we do at NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Still think it’s funny you say we can’t use the Peppers example but you use Calais Campbell one. Lololol What? I never said I would want Calais Campbell playing OLB in a 34. Peppers already has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 So literally 3 of those guys play the position that we are discussing. A stand-up 34 OLB. None of those 3 are as big as Tanoh. And in those 3 you are comparing him to a former number one overall pick in the draft, one of the best pass rushers in the NFL in Jones and a guy with 14 total career sacks in Dupree. This is not the kind of info that would change my opinion. This is the kind of info that strengthens it. Also, watt is on the inside a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Sign him before he goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Man I wish something would leak on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefThunder 153 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 On his way to Washington Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 If he's scheduling all these visits, he's wanting more than teams are offering. Hard pass. If they're gonna spend money, just go get Richardson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 Sounds good to me. Either would help. Not crazy about their attitudes but not much choice unless we roll with Bailey, Logan, Nacho or Poe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 If he's scheduling all these visits, he's wanting more than teams are offering. Hard pass. If they're gonna spend money, just go get Richardson. He must be telling teams he iusnt interested in a 1 yr "prove it" deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,690 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 He must be telling teams he iusnt interested in a 1 yr "prove it" deal. then he is a douchbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 What? I never said I would want Calais Campbell playing OLB in a 34. Peppers already has. No no no.....you compared him to Campbell as the reason why a 6’8 guy can be a 3-4 DE....but you don’t allow others to compare him to Peppers as a example of a 6’8 guy playing a 3-4 OLB. Can’t have it both ways buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chefverona 10 Posted March 10, 2018 Share Posted March 10, 2018 For anyone that believes Herm Edwards is the sole voice for anything they should reconsider. He has a right to believe what he does and so do I. Herm should know he was fired after his 2-14 record. I think a lot of you were calling for his head and other parts of his body. I'm sure Clark told him it was a business decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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