Chiefswinitall 60 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 don't have links. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Yeah just seen this on twitter... Jeff RosenVerified account @jeff_rosen88 6m6 minutes agoMore So Veach says the #Chiefs are counting their change to see if they can entice Ty Mathieu. Interesting. VERY excited to hear this . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It's like Dorsey never left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 If we are in on Matthieu it should dispel any notion that we don't have enough left to sign another impact player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 More journo's are confirming it now... Matt Derrick @mattderrickFollowFollow @mattderrick More Veach says he's interested in Tyrann Matthieu if he can make the money work. Matt Derrick @mattderrick 11m11 minutes agoMore Veach further on Mathieu: "We exhaust ideas and options that maybe are completely unrealistic or maybe a 1 percent chance of ever happening. But we'll still exhaust it if it can happen. But sure, and that would be another one that maybe we already exhausted already." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 How much do yall think we would realistically have to spend on this guy? Surely it's not Watkin's type numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He turned down a restructuring for 9m a year in Arizona, so that should give you an idea what it will take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 How much do yall think we would realistically have to spend on this guy? Surely it's not Watkin's type numbers? At least 11-13m per year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He turned down a restructuring for 9m a year in Arizona, so that should give you an idea what it will take.No, what he was, was upset that his team wanted him to take less than they promised. A person out of work sometimes changes their mind on things. He may be willing to take less this year if it meant having a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 He turned down a restructuring for 9m a year in Arizona, so that should give you an idea what it will take. 9.5m a year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 At least 11-13m per year Can we afford that If we structure the contract right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 No, what he was, was upset that his team wanted him to take less than they promised. A person out of work sometimes changes their mind on things. He may be willing to take less this year if it meant having a job. There's no such thing as a promise beyond fully guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 How much do yall think we would realistically have to spend on this guy? Surely it's not Watkin's type numbers? Well this is his Cardinals contract: 5 year, $62,500,000 contract including a $15,500,000 signing bonus, $40,000,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $12,500,000 There was a interview with him and he stated he was open to a restructure but didn't like the idea of a pay cut and taking money out of his pocket... That being said I'm guessing he will be looking for $12M a year but who knows what the market will look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 There's no such thing as a promise beyond fully guaranteed money.Like most, nobody likes being told to take a pay cut and that's what the Cards asked him to do. I know some out there hate comparing players to us normal nobodies but would you be willing to take a 10 to 20K cut if you knew you could go elsewhere? Put millions in place Ks for him. Promise is not a guarantee but when a team has a contract it's about as clise to a guarantee as your gonna get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Can we afford that If we structure the contract right? Shouldn't be to much trouble but some people will bitch about the cap amount going to the safety position Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Well... maybe we can get him turned around. He played almost every defensive snap this past season for first time in his career. Actually had most snaps in entire NFL count ST snaps. PFF graded him out as 77 for the season which is actually about the same as patrick Peterson's grade. It should be noted that PFF grades him as a cb not a safety because Zona plays him mostly as a cb. 2016 was a total loss due to injury. ACL if i remember correctly. 2015 highest graded cb in nfl. Last great year from him. Played only 8% of total snaps at single high safety. Over 80% of snaps at cb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Like most, nobody likes being told to take a pay cut and that's what the Cards asked him to do. I know some out there hate comparing players to us normal nobodies but would you be willing to take a 10 to 20K cut if you knew you could go elsewhere? Put millions in place Ks for him. Promise is not a guarantee but when a team has a contract it's about as clise to a guarantee as your gonna get. Two things. 1. That contract is dependent on him performing up to the salary, which he did not. 2. I don't blame any player for getting the most money they possibly can. I just don't think we should be the ones handing out stupid deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 It's like Dorsey never left Except the complete opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Chiefs have a little over 9m left...it’s possible we could make this work depending on how it’s structured. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/cap/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 Except the complete opposite. That Watkins contract would say otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 And the 9m we have is net of rookie contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 14, 2018 Share Posted March 14, 2018 That Watkins contract would say otherwise. Yeah because signing a 24 year old that has yet to reach his ceiling is totally the same thing as paying third contract guys who are ready to fall off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 And the 9m we have is net of rookie contracts. Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Interesting that they are talking about the Chiefs and honeybadger being a good fit on the NFL network HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 That Watkins contract would say otherwise. Really? How many top FA WRs did Dorsey bring in? How many top LB FAs did Dorsey bring in? The only big contracts Dorsey typically inked were guys on the roster already. How many Pro Bowl players did Dorsey trade away? Veach traded 2 before FA even started. You may not like Veach’s moves, but to say he is just like Dorsey is ridiculous. Opposites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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