FANATIC 852 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The Watkins signing doesn't surprise me. Did you all forget the drops and alligator arms in the playoffs, not to mention how the passing game went into the toilet after Kelce went out. The Chiefs needed a viable 3rd receiver and it's obvious the team didn't believe they had one on the team. Exactly. Plus we are one injury away from any of those key guys down. Quality Depth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I like the moves. The money seems high but you have to pay more in the firs wave of FA and LBs like Hitchens don't just grow on trees. We now have our thumper and cover lbs and quite possible the most dangerous wr duo in the league. Pat will struggle but he's going to throw for a ton of TDs and yards. Defenses had a hard time stopping (Hill, Kelce, and Hunt). We add Ware and Watkins....dang! The only move I found questionable was the one he didn't make. Wilkerson 1 year for 5 million is a head scratcher. That is exactly the kind of deal we needed and he knows Sutton scheme. Can't fully blame him though not knowing all the details. Regardless we can't judge him this year anyways not in terms of the cap. Gonna have to wait and see how he manages it over the next couple years. Hope he learned drom Dorseys mistakes while maintaining Dorsey's excellent eye for talent and finding diamonds in the rough. So far so good imo. Wilkerson is a moron is why and basically quit on the Jets. They're not going to go with players like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 "Who knows... maybe we'll be back in the first round." Not sure if that could be called a preference but this is the actual quote. Overstated on my end for sure. Sam Mellinger said Veach “hinted st trying to trade back into first round”. Not exactly a bold statement but I transformed that into “prefers”. My bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Question, why do so many people care what the Chiefs spend on these players? It's not any of our money and the Chiefs are in great cap space, especially next year when they can load up these deals and have. What do you expect to happen in free agency? All the best players be signed for the best deal for the Chiefs? We know that's not going to happen. Sammy Watkins and Hitchens will count for at most, $13 million against the cap in 2018. Young guys that if they stay healthy should be ascending as players during their contracts. Dorsey had a tendency to pay players based on what they had already done, these type moves seem more based on what Veach thinks they will do. Big difference. One thing ee absolutely don’t want though is a lack of CAP flexibility year to year. Stacking contracts in the right way is something we’ve lacked and Veach must Improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 Question, why do so many people care what the Chiefs spend on these players? It's not any of our money and the Chiefs are in great cap space, especially next year when they can load up these deals and have. What do you expect to happen in free agency? All the best players be signed for the best deal for the Chiefs? We know that's not going to happen. Sammy Watkins and Hitchens will count for at most, $13 million against the cap in 2018. I bring it up only because of how some bitched about the way Dorsey handled things with the cap. You are correct in saying these moves don’t affect the Chiefs so much in 2018, but in 2019 and beyond the Chiefs are taking the brunt of these contracts. Certainly time will tell. I’m all for these moves as long as they work out - lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 I bring it up only because of how some bitched about the way Dorsey handled things with the cap. You are correct in saying these moves don’t affect the Chiefs so much in 2018, but in 2019 and beyond the Chiefs are taking the brunt of these contracts. Certainly time will tell. I’m all for these moves as long as they work out - lol. OTC and spotrac differ, but between the two, they state KC has anywhere from 40m to 57m in cap space next year with the Watkins and Hitchins deals figured in. They're fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted March 15, 2018 Author Share Posted March 15, 2018 OTC and spotrac differ, but between the two, they state KC has anywhere from 40m to 57m in cap space next year with the Watkins and Hitchins deals figured in. They're fine. Unless Watkins is in a boot....Because....Chiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Lol I looked it up... oops I hope you got a laugh at least.. I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 My only thought is the defence would look a whole lot better with another ball hawking CB on a rookie contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCJohnKC 33 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 My only thought is the defence would look a whole lot better with another ball hawking CB on a rookie contract. Well played sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Gary McKenzie @Super_G_Chiefs 41s42 seconds ago Poe just signed with the Panthers. Veach said he won't attack free agency positions where the draft is deep. The draft is deep along the DL. I still think the Chiefs free agent additions (if any) at DL will be underwhelming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 Question, why do so many people care what the Chiefs spend on these players? It's not any of our money and the Chiefs are in great cap space, especially next year when they can load up these deals and have. What do you expect to happen in free agency? All the best players be signed for the best deal for the Chiefs? We know that's not going to happen. Sammy Watkins and Hitchens will count for at most, $13 million against the cap in 2018. With the strict cap and spending 99% of it the money will go somewhere regardless. Some people prefer it to be spent elsewhere rather than staying in Hunt's pocket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted March 15, 2018 Share Posted March 15, 2018 The Peters trade is still a head scratcher for me but I’ve really liked the Watkins and Hutchins signing, they were two massive needs that we filled with good players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 The Peters trade is still a head scratcher for me but I’ve really liked the Watkins and Hutchins signing, they were two massive needs that we filled with good players.Personally I believe with the young guns on the team management/ coaches didn't want any distractions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 The Peters trade is still a head scratcher for me but I’ve really liked the Watkins and Hutchins signing, they were two massive needs that we filled with good players. After all the coach speak, the shouting match between Peters and Sutton, coaches saying press man coverage is back, and watching Peters play 15 yards off what seemed like all the time... Is it possible Peters wasn't playing press man at times when he was supposed to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 So far i am in favor of veech. I really like the alex smith trade, the recent cuts, and the trades last year. Im also in favor of the peters deal. But some of these recent contract signings are getting dangerously close to the stupidity level of john dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I also read somewhere that now we don't have a single player over the age of 30 on the roster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I've been very happy with Veach so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,606 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 I also read somewhere that now we don't have a single player over the age of 30 on the roster Colquitt is over 30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Colquitt is over 30 ah ok, I read it before we resigned him. I'm sure it will change as we fill out the roster but it is nice knowing that we not only have a solid team but young one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 If the Chiefs want to get Mathieu Sorensen is a goner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 If the Chiefs want to get Mathieu Sorensen is a goner no, he won't get cut. It's costs more to cut him than to keep him. Plus, we would just have to sign/draft someone to replace Sorenson. Keep him 1 more year and then cut him when it doesn't cost so much to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCSLC2008 607 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Dorsey was also giving out big contracts to third contract declining guys like Tamba, DJ and Charles. Anthony Sherman would be a concern if we gave him a big guarantee, but that’s highly unlikely. The 2018 Cbiefs will be one of the youngest rosters in franchise history. Now that we have a good team, I think we can afford to go get other players for shorter contracts and those two are already here will take less money because they are in a winning situation that they can earn more years. I think that Dorsey felt, right or wrong way, that he had to pay to keep the players that we had because your team looked bad. I'm not sure if Dorsey would eventually sign shorter deals as we got better, but I guess we'll never know. Or we won't know until years from now. He took over Cleveland team that is worse than we were. I know we have some good players before he came, but execution and perception wasn't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 If the Chiefs want to get Mathieu Sorensen is a goner With Berry back Sorensen is already going to see his playing time diminish drastically (for the best) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted March 16, 2018 Share Posted March 16, 2018 Now that we have a good team, I think we can afford to go get other players for shorter contracts and those two are already here will take less money because they are in a winning situation that they can earn more years. I think that Dorsey felt, right or wrong way, that he had to pay to keep the players that we had because your team looked bad. I'm not sure if Dorsey would eventually sign shorter deals as we got better, but I guess we'll never know. Or we won't know until years from now. He took over Cleveland team that is worse than we were. I know we have some good players before he came, but execution and perception wasn't there. These shorter contracts expire when Mahomes will be up for big money. Not a coincidence. 5th year option on mahomes will be big money. We have 3 cheap years. Go hog wild for those 3 years while maintaining some flexibility for 2nd contracts on tyreek, jones and maybe some others. Smart business. So far veach has a good plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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