MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Was listening to the locked on Chiefs podcast last night and the guys were adamant that "Conley can play In the slot" and how we don't nee Kendall Wright? They also said "Conley is the second fastest WR On the roster" and how he knows the playbook so would have an advantage over someone new coming In. Oh, and they suggested that IF Wright does sign, then it would be a sign that Robinson is leaving!!. Personally, I totally disagree with them. Conley is no slot guy as he doesn't have that sudden quickness, or elusiveness to do damage over short distances imo. He's played wide for most of his football career for a reason. The fact is the guy may have been neglected by Smith quite a bit, but he still done nothing remarkable with the ball even when he was targeted imo. For me the four catches and TD that Robinson got In that last drive before the half against the Titans was a better passage of play than anything Conley has done since he's been here. And thus, If anyone should be feeling the heat for their place, then it's him. I personally want to see a proper slot WR brought In either in FA or the draft, so that everyone knows their positions and there will be no question marks. The last thing we need is for Conley to play slot and mess plays up just because he's not used to the position. That's why I fully understand why the Chiefs are interested In an experience slot guy like Wright, because he'll know exactly where to be and has experience of playing with a young QB having did it last season with Trubisky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Bigger guys at slot have been tried and worked before. I wouldn't mind giving Mahomes yet another big target in the middle. He has a great reach that would essentially make him a TE-type guy and smaller shifty guys cannot easily defend him in there. Also Conley is our best blocker by far and having him in the slot could boost the run game as defenses adjust to Hunt. I remember Bowe playing some slot with Cassel in 2010 and looking good at that, we could see a similar performance from Conley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Bigger guys at slot have been tried and worked before. I wouldn't mind giving Mahomes yet another big target in the middle. He has a great reach that would essentially make him a TE-type guy and smaller shifty guys cannot easily defend him in there. Also Conley is our best blocker by far and having him in the slot could boost the run game as defenses adjust to Hunt. I remember Bowe playing some slot with Cassel in 2010 and looking good at that, we could see a similar performance from Conley. Is it wise having someone who will pretty mucn have to learn the job when we've got a young QB throwing the ball? And tbh I personally think Robinson would suit the position better because he's quick, elusive and faster over short distances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Is it wise having someone who will pretty mucn have to learn the job when we've got a young QB throwing the ball? And tbh I personally think Robinson would suit the position better because he's quick, elusive and faster over short distances. Not sure if Robinson is up to the challenge. He was good and bad at times over the course of the season so a rotational role might suit him better. Conley has been decent in routes and physically better so I wouldn't mind him getting the nod at slot. I doubt he would be getting all the snaps though. An ideal scenario IMO is having guys move around to create mismatches throughout the game. Conley has the edge over others in 50-50 throws so he'll be used outside as well as well as Watkins providing some sure hands in the middle at times, etc. This is the last year of Conley's contract and Robinson might be ready to start by the end of the year after getting an extended workload as the #4 guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Yeah, I would be Robinson there before Conley. Conley is a little stiff and more fast than quick in my opinion. Conley needs to show he is back and ready to improve. D Rob and Chesson are good young talents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 To be honest, I would roll Hill in at slot for most 3 WRs sets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 DAT will be our new slot guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Not sure if Robinson is up to the challenge. He was good and bad at times over the course of the season so a rotational role might suit him better. Conley has been decent in routes and physically better so I wouldn't mind him getting the nod at slot. I doubt he would be getting all the snaps though. An ideal scenario IMO is having guys move around to create mismatches throughout the game. Conley has the edge over others in 50-50 throws so he'll be used outside as well as well as Watkins providing some sure hands in the middle at times, etc. This is the last year of Conley's contract and Robinson might be ready to start by the end of the year after getting an extended workload as the #4 guy. Conley has been In the league for three years and his stats are 21 starts, 904 yards with only one TD. Is this really the guy we should be counting on to play the slot? REALLY? I just don't see what he brings to the table tbh. At least with Robinson he gets consistent separation, can pull off the odd great catch and Is elusive enough to beat tackles. Conley just isn't a TD threat imo and with the way our offense is set-up for next season we're gonna need our slot guy to do a lot of work because teams will try their best to shut down Hill, Watkins and Kelce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 DAT will be our new slot guy I'm not sure about that. Not strong enough to handle the grind on a consistent basis imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarksvilleChief 193 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I was kinda impressed with Robinson when he actually got the chance to play. He apparently has a chemistry with Mahomes from working together in camp. I would like to give him a shot before We continue to bring in more WR's. I think the team is good at that position now. I would like to see Conley play with Mahomes as QB. Give him that chance to see. Why not Hill in the slot? Slots are typically that speedy dude...He works well in space...or is he better on the outside? Just wondering..I think either way, we will have a lot of 3 WR's sets come game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Conley has been In the league for three years and his stats are 21 starts, 904 yards with only one TD. Is this really the guy we should be counting on to play the slot? REALLY? I just don't see what he brings to the table tbh. At least with Robinson he gets consistent separation, can pull off the odd great catch and Is elusive enough to beat tackles. Conley just isn't a TD threat imo and with the way our offense is set-up for next season we're gonna need our slot guy to do a lot of work because teams will try their best to shut down Hill, Watkins and Kelce. Conley's biggest asset is his blocking which no other WR on our roster brings to the table. I'm not sure if that makes him a decent slot or outside candidate but they'll definitely use him somewhere. Hill hasn't been good enough in route running to handle the slot and Watkins is the obvious choice but he has too big of a paycheck to just play in the middle instead of getting double teams outside. IMO Conley with his size and blocking advantage will get the bigger payload among our WRs with the exception of Hill and Watkins but he won't be there for all the snaps. We don't know how he'll come back from the injury and might end up being a non-factor depending on his injury status so too early to tell but assuming he comes back 100% his size and blocking will be too good to pass up for the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I was kinda impressed with Robinson when he actually got the chance to play. He apparently has a chemistry with Mahomes from working together in camp. I would like to give him a shot before We continue to bring in more WR's. I think the team is good at that position now. I would like to see Conley play with Mahomes as QB. Give him that chance to see. Why not Hill in the slot? Slots are typically that speedy dude...He works well in space...or is he better on the outside? Just wondering..I think either way, we will have a lot of 3 WR's sets come game day. I think DAT's contract with no guarantees gives Robinson a chance to earn the spot. He looked good when getting separation and just needs some consistency. Hill hasn't been good in running routes, he has great speed which defenders fail to keep up but other than that he's still a work in progress. If he progresses well enough I could see him in the slot but not sure if that'll be the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Conley's biggest asses is his blocking He's got a little junk in the trunk, but no need to body shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,606 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 He's got a little junk in the trunk, but no need to body shame. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 https://twitter.com/RyanTracyNFL/status/977608984860356608 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad 242 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Conley better than Robinson, that's why he was in there before his injury and Robinson was on the bench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 https://twitter.com/RyanTracyNFL/status/977608984860356608 That's the guy who was pushing Conley for the slot on the podcast I mentioned. I simply do not agree with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Conley better than Robinson, that's why he was in there before his injury and Robinson was on the bench Conley got in by having more experience I'd say . Robinson has way more talent than him Imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad 242 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Conley got in by having more experience I'd say . Robinson has way more talent than him Imo. Yeah, that's why the coaches played Conley instead of Robinson, they wanted to keep the more talented guy out of the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Yeah, that's why the coaches played Conley instead of Robinson, they wanted to keep the more talented guy out of the game I guess Smith is more talented than Mahomes then, right? OOOPS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad 242 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 I guess Smith is more talented than Mahomes then, right? OOOPS. Yes, for the year they played together, but I thought the conversation was about Conley versus Robinson, can't you come up with any facts for the basis of your opinion (which is wrong by the way) You do realize that Conley started eleven games in 2016 and Robinson zero, and Conley started all five games he played in 2017 before his injury, Robinson did not start a game until after the injury, those are the facts, see what i mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Yes, for the year they played together, but I thought the conversation was about Conley versus Robinson, can't you come up with any facts for the basis of your opinion (which is wrong by the way) You do realize that Conley started eleven games in 2016 and Robinson zero, and Conley started all five games he played in 2017 before his injury, Robinson did not start a game until after the injury, those are the facts, see what i mean? Do you know what "talent" means? Because I'm beginning to wonder. "Experience" can sometimes trump "talent" because though one guy can be more talented, the more experienced one may make less mistakes and know the playbook better. And that was the case In both the Mahomes/Smith situation, and the Robinson/Conley situation IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad 242 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Do you know what "talent" means? Because I'm beginning to wonder. "Experience" can sometimes trump "talent" because though one guy can be more talented, the more experienced one may make less mistakes and know the playbook better. And that was the case In both the Mahomes/Smith situation, and the Robinson/Conley situation IMO. Listen, it's been really nice chatting with you, but I've got a brick wall right next to me and i don't have to type and it does not spew nonsense back to me. You have NO idea how much talent either Mahomes or Robinson has, Mahomes has barely played and Robinson was second choice made by those who evaluate talent in the NFL as a profession, have a nice day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Listen, it's been really nice chatting with you, but I've got a brick wall right next to me and i don't have to type and it does not spew nonsense back to me. You have NO idea how much talent either Mahomes or Robinson has, Mahomes has barely played and Robinson was second choice made by those who evaluate talent in the NFL as a profession, have a nice day Yep, Just like I thought, you don't know the difference between talent and experience. So no point debating. Deuces!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad 242 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Yep, Just like I thought, you don't know the difference between talent and experience. So no point debating. Deuces!!! Wow, you really crushed me with your factual debate technique and superior intelligence, congratulations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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