sith13 1,746 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 We had two early first round picks, no legit QB on the roster and only needed to move up three spots to get Matt Ryan. King Carl blew a golden opportunity. Rams were already guaranteed to pick up DL and had no worries about Raiders picking up a non-offensive player. Should have pulled the trigger to get to #2 and we might have gotten a SB by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,607 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Rams were already guaranteed to pick up DL and had no worries about Raiders picking up a non-offensive player. Should have pulled the trigger to get to #2 and we might have gotten a SB by now. Correct me if I am wrong but was it not the Falcons saying they were not trading they spot any ways or was not Detroit with Stafford at the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Herm has said multiple times now that KC did plan to draft Matty Ice at #5 and every report they were getting was that the Falcons had no interest and were targeting Glenn Dorsey at #3. Seems Chiefs felt pretty confident that Ryan would be there at #5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 All reports I had were the Falcons were locked in on Matt Ryan for a good month leading up to the draft. The Chiefs reluctance to move up is why both guys associated with that move are no longer in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marleydawg 60 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 All reports I had were the Falcons were locked in on Matt Ryan for a good month leading up to the draft. The Chiefs reluctance to move up is why both guys associated with that move are no longer in the NFL. Meh. I live in Atlanta, see a lot of Matt Ryan. He's better than what we've had in KC (certainly pre-11) but don't consider him to be the missing piece to a Superbowl personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 There is no Super Bowl window without Matt Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 I'm not a big fan of Ryan /shrug Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Okay, neat. I hate top 10 QB's too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Okay, neat. I hate top 10 QB's too. What makes him so great? The number of Super Bowls he has? Wait that’s zero I just don’t think the guy has the IT factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 Ryan is a good qb. Certainly top 10. To argue otherwise is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 What makes him so great? The number of Super Bowls he has? Wait that’s zero I just don’t think the guy has the IT factor Awesome thanks for calling in with that take. Next caller! *wild zoo sounds* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 All time Top 10 in career completion % and interception %. All time Top 20 in yards, completed passes, career passer rating, adjusted yards per attempt, 4th qtr comebacks, and TDs. Yeah but you have a feeling he lacks "it". KC hasn't had a homegrown qb that good since... uh ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 2/10 elbows too pointy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Probably turn his nose up at having Marino in his prime as well since he didn't have a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I feel like Ryan is in a situation similar to Marino in terms of career. Ryan is very good QB with a lot of talent. However he has been stuck in an organization that failed to field a defense good enough to win. No matter who the QB is a solid defense or pure luck is a must for the SB IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I never said that he isn’t a top 10 QB. Just that I don’t like the guy and I personally don’t think he has what it takes to be considered one of the best. I would point at scheme and talent around him. But if you think I need to like him and every top 10 QB I’ll run out and buy each of there jerseys? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Warparty 69 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 All time Top 10 in career completion % and interception %. All time Top 20 in yards, completed passes, career passer rating, adjusted yards per attempt, 4th qtr comebacks, and TDs. Yeah but you have a feeling he lacks "it". KC hasn't had a homegrown qb that good since... uh ever. So, he's Dan Marino 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I never said that he isn’t a top 10 QB. Just that I don’t like the guy and I personally don’t think he has what it takes to be considered one of the best. I would point at scheme and talent around him. But if you think I need to like him and every top 10 QB I’ll run out and buy each of there jerseys? Nobody says you have to like him but at least admit it's personal, not based on logic or on field play. Hell i hate Rivers but he's a hell of a qb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 So, he's Dan Marino 2.0? That decision by king carl certainly set the franchise back much like the 83 decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 I never said that he isn’t a top 10 QB. Just that I don’t like the guy and I personally don’t think he has what it takes to be considered one of the best. I would point at scheme and talent around him. But if you think I need to like him and every top 10 QB I’ll run out and buy each of there jerseys? Talk about shook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Nobody says you have to like him but at least admit it's personal, not based on logic or on field play. Hell i hate Rivers but he's a hell of a qb. Not personal at all...I just don't see that drive in him like I do other top QBs and Ryan seemed to take a big drop this past year after Shanahan left. I see him as a Alex Smith type that needs the right scheme and talent around him to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 That entire Offense dipped because Sark sucks To put it in perspective. Bama lost with Sark and won the NC the following year with Brian fucking Daboll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 That entire Offense dipped because Sark sucks To put it in perspective. Bama lost with Sark and won the NC the following year with Brian fucking Daboll. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 CB depth is a need for sure. Nelson did play better as the year went along. I'd like to see the end of an era of CB 1 on one side and CB 2 on the other side. Put the best man on the best man and freaking go ball out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Nobody says you have to like him but at least admit it's personal, not based on logic or on field play. Hell i hate Rivers but he's a hell of a qb. Regarding Rivers I used to agree but that guy has choked against the Chiefs many times and his playoff resume is not great. Hell we give Alex Smith major shit over his playoff success but Rivers has not sniffed the playoffs in like 7 or 8 years I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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