Chiefswinitall 60 Posted April 19, 2018 Share Posted April 19, 2018 If your starved for Chiefs analysis. Said Justin Houston has declined. Said Sutton is playing a scheme without the players. .http://unionbroadcasting.pro.poola.tritondigitalcms.com/whb-am/border-patrol-podcast/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Than it sounds like the dickhead should change the scheme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted April 20, 2018 Author Share Posted April 20, 2018 Also said we need passrusher with 1st pick over cb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 I agree with the notion of "scheme without players". Especially the guys at OLB are trying to play 3-4 but we only have pass rushers on at least one side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 This is interesting coming from Chadiha, who’s written some pretty bullish pieces on the Chiefs in the past. He’s right about Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,691 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 yea having Jeff not be overly positive is not very refreshing but his dissing on Sutton is on point regardless of what Reid says Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 Didn't Seth Keysor put out an article on Houston right after the season and said he was a beast? I feel like people just look at a players sack total and then make a determination. I'm not going to search for it on Twitter, but i'm pretty sure Keysor put out an article on how Houston was used and how well he performed even though he wasn't getting huge sack totals. He is NOT done. EDIT: I found it. He is still a very, very good player and will be. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/3/2/17071674/look-closer-justin-houston-is-still-one-of-the-best-in-the-game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted April 20, 2018 Share Posted April 20, 2018 He’s wrong about Houston imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 He’s wrong about Houston imo. Houston was paid a shit ton of money to get sacks and he’s not. How is he wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,607 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Houston was paid a shit ton of money to get sacks and he’s not. How is he wrong? If Houston is used correctly he could. Still rated as one if the top all around OLB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 He’s wrong about Houston imo. I agree with this part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 If Houston is used correctly he could. Still rated as one if the top all around OLB I agree he’s still a very good “all-around” OLB, but you don’t give a guy $100m to be a very good all-around OLB. Reality is that since Houston got that deal he hasn’t been the same dominant pass rusher, whether due to injuries or other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NChiefsCorner 496 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Could be draft talk, we need a pass rusher with our 1st pick, meanwhile we take a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Houston was paid a shit ton of money to get sacks and he’s not. How is he wrong? This conversation has been had 1000 times in here already. Hard to get sacks when you are playing free safety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Houston was paid a shit ton of money to get sacks and he’s not. How is he wrong? Houston had to drop back all the time, that's why. And a lot of it was because Peters was playing off, and Berry was gone. Now that that question is out of the way, I read (as we all did) the other day, that Chris Jones came to camp 25 lb. lighter and also that he may play more on the outside than interior this coming season. Sounds to me like they are going to use him as a pass rusher a lot more, now that they have run-stopping linebackers. If he does, that will help Houston in several ways. That would also mean that our first pick will be CB, not pass rusher. That also does not even account for the possiblity that K-Pass will break out this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 This conversation has been had 1000 times in here already. Hard to get sacks when you are playing free safety And as a 2 gapping DL, basically. Bob Sutton used Houston to mask a lot of the lack of talent and his stupid scheme. There's a point when statline analyzing is a hindrance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Houston didn't meet your standard...blame Sutton. Scheme didn't work...blame Sutton. Peters played 10 yards off...blame Sutton. Sutton designed the scheme and called the plays, it all starts and ends with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,812 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Houston didn't meet your standard...blame Sutton. Scheme didn't work...blame Sutton. Peters played 10 yards off...blame Sutton. Sutton designed the scheme and called the plays, it all starts and ends with him. Now you’re getting it. When Houston rushed the QB, he got there. Not his fault if he is running around in the secondary half the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted April 21, 2018 Author Share Posted April 21, 2018 This conversation has been had 1000 times in here already. Hard to get sacks when you are playing free safety We are going to find out this next season. What a waste. Did we play this scheme because Berry injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 And as a 2 gapping DL, basically. Bob Sutton used Houston to mask a lot of the lack of talent and his stupid scheme. There's a point when statline analyzing is a hindrance. Yep. It was maddening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 We are going to find out this next season. What a waste. Did we play this scheme because Berry injury? It’s started with that. And then dee Ford gets hurt.. and the inside linebackers sucked until rags starting playing. Houston was great all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Houston didn't meet your standard...blame Sutton. Scheme didn't work...blame Sutton. Peters played 10 yards off...blame Sutton. Sutton designed the scheme and called the plays, it all starts and ends with him. Not buying it at all. When Sutton had two pass rusher and two legit corners his scheme was a top five scoring defense and top three in turnovers created. We were old and slow last year and Sutton’s scheme was handicapped by talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted April 21, 2018 Share Posted April 21, 2018 Not buying it at all. When Sutton had two pass rusher and two legit corners his scheme was a top five scoring defense and top three in turnovers created. We were old and slow last year and Sutton’s scheme was handicapped by talent.Well, talent may have been the issue for sure, but Houston was not in that group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Not buying it at all. When Sutton had two pass rusher and two legit corners his scheme was a top five scoring defense and top three in turnovers created. We were old and slow last year and Sutton’s scheme was handicapped by talent. You could run any halfassed scheme with top end rushers and corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Not buying it at all. When Sutton had two pass rusher and two legit corners his scheme was a top five scoring defense and top three in turnovers created. We were old and slow last year and Sutton’s scheme was handicapped by talent. Then you adjust...putting Houston in coverage, rushing only 2 linemen, and playing our CB soft is not a solution in any scheme. Sutton isn't creative and we will see it once again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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