FANATIC 852 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Free agent OG Richie Incognito informed the Bills he will not retire before they granted his release on Monday. Some teams in the Bills' position wouldn't budge after feeling a player turned his back on them, but Buffalo quickly allowed Incognito to move on and begin engaging other teams. Although he's a short-term fix going on age 35, Incognito is plenty capable of helping a team at guard. The Ravens with ex-Bills OC Greg Roman make sense. The Bengals could also use another upgrade inside. Related: Bills I say yes. I still think this avg rated oline is overrated and is below avg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,114 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Don't like him as a person but I would have liked to have signed him years ago. He's a hard nosed very good OG and I would love to have him here for a year while Khalil develops. I doubt we even speak with his agent though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 YES YES YES!!!! I don't like the guy personally but damn we need his attitude on this team and even at 35 he has ranked in or near the top 10 at guard for years. Give him a two year contract and a chance for a super bowl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 No! Doesn't fit what we are going at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 I would love to have the talent. But we need to find a young OG. And he is a douche. The line is not great, but a one year bandage in the middle of a rebuild doesn’t seem to fit what we are building. I do see the need to keep Pat clean and Hunt healthy this year so I would not be upset if they did it. My gut says they don’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,812 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Haha. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,607 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 See what they have in TC first. If the LG is still unsettled there will be cuts to pick from. If they do not like the players now and where they should be at for development though, then sign him now and let them develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 I would love to have the talent. But we need to find a young OG. And he is a douche. The line is not great, but a one year bandage in the middle of a rebuild doesn’t seem to fit what we are building. I do see the need to keep Pat clean and Hunt healthy this year so I would not be upset if they did it. My gut says they don’t. This line is AVG at best and one injury away from not great. No real depth. You spend 16 mill on a receiver. QB needs time. I do not see a downside on a one year prove it deal. I agree with you not likely they will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 That is a fair point. This is a young excited group talking about dynasty. I think you give them that chance and roll young. I agree that this line does not have a Pro Bowl guy anywhere and LG is the weakest of life no in that chain. I just think that as a fan, if I think “what a douche bag”, how do you throw a ton of money at that guy, stick him in the locker room and not hurt the chemistry. Maybe I am over thinking it, but I would feel like you could get 2 or 3 young players for the same money. And say we are committed to building, not puttying over a hole for a little while. It feels like bondo and chicken wire over a rust hole to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 That is a fair point. This is a young excited group talking about dynasty. I think you give them that chance and roll young. I agree that this line does not have a Pro Bowl guy anywhere and LG is the weakest of life no in that chain. I just think that as a fan, if I think “what a douche bag”, how do you throw a ton of money at that guy, stick him in the locker room and not hurt the chemistry. Maybe I am over thinking it, but I would feel like you could get 2 or 3 young players for the same money. And say we are committed to building, not puttying over a hole for a little while. It feels like bondo and chicken wire over a rust hole to me. Not sure this is big money for all the reasons you stated? The line KC has today will not get this team anywhere at anytime. Just not much talent there. Even 2019 this line will not be much better if at all. NO depth and little above avg talent other than Schwartz.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 You make good points. For argument sake, what do think he would cost? Do you think he is a one year stop gap for a 2018 SB contender or a 2-3 year guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Can't think of a single good reason why you'd dump off someone like Peters, because he was a distraction, to bring in Incognito. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 You make good points. For argument sake, what do think he would cost? Do you think he is a one year stop gap for a 2018 SB contender or a 2-3 year guy? This guy has issues for sure. A one year deal is all I would offer. I doubt another team offers much either. He may walk out mid season and he may have a good year left. Who knows. Cheap incentive based deal. This guy may not prefer a super bowl team. High expectations seems too much for him. Can he play one solid year? Cheap deal and cut him if he is a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 Sign the man, there is nothing ideal about our guard situation nor the depth in the OL in general. If he can help keep PM clean for a year as a stop gap then it's worth the risk. My guess is he signs with the pats though...Patriot kind of move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 .https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2018/05/21/chiefs-likely-wont-be-in-on-the-richie-incognito-market/ Can you play without a liver or kidney? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I think we will be fine going with Ehringer right now and developing Mackenzie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 If he was a star OG I wouldn't mind taking a look but he's an average guy at the end of his career that's barely an upgrade with a lot of potential for locker room issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 22, 2018 Author Share Posted May 22, 2018 If he was a star OG I wouldn't mind taking a look but he's an average guy at the end of his career that's barely an upgrade with a lot of potential for locker room issues. Rated #12 last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Rated #12 last year... If I'm not mistaken he was ranked similar to Fulton in most reports which I never considered to be good enough and at his age doomed to get worse in 2018. He's still an upgrade over Weitzman but Ehinger might be just as good with a full offseason under his belt after the injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okiechief1 425 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 I agree with LF on this. How can you get rid of a talent like Peters only to bring in a guy like Incognito. While the line can be better it's also not bad either. That line allowed us to be 5th in yds and 6th in points. Alex also had a career year in passing and Hunt was the leagues rushing leader as a rookie. PFF had KCs line rated at 9 in pass protection and 12 in run blocking. If Mahomes is what we think he is he will make the line look better as well. Morse coming back from injury will help as in 2017 he was rated the # 5 center in pass protection. If Andy can keep teams off balance with his play calling the line will look pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evad 242 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Oh sure lets get him and while we are at it, let's sign Terrell Owens and Pac Man Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 No, I think they should not sign him at all, incognito or completely out in the open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Yep. We are building but not a retirement home for assholes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Yep. We are building but not a retirement home for assholes. OK I was so wrong! Free agent OG Richie Incognito was involved in an altercation at a Florida gym on Wednesday and is being held by police for an involuntary psychiatric evaluation. It's called the Baker Act, which is an involuntary mental evaluation. Incognito allegedly threw a dumbbell at another man in a Boca Raton gym this morning "for no apparent reason" after first throwing a tennis ball at the gym-goer. Incognito was allegedly "rambling about the government and screaming at the other man to 'get off my f*cking playground'." This is the second time Incognito has been held under the Baker Act, with the first coming in 2014. Incognito is a free agent after being released by the Bills this week. He had planned to continue his career. Source: TMZ Sports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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