Chiefswinitall 60 Posted May 21, 2018 Share Posted May 21, 2018 .https://arrowheadaddict.com/2018/05/21/mitch-morse-kansas-city-chiefs-future-analysis/ And underneath Chiefs CB position review. . What does the future look like for Mitch Morse and the Chiefs? by Kody Latham12 hours ago Tweet Share x Comment Mitch Morse is entering the last year of his contract with the Chiefs. If Morse plays well coming back from his injury what should the Chiefs do with him? When Willie Roaf, Brian Waters, Casey Wiegmann, Will Shields, and John Tait played for the Kansas City Chiefs, it showed fans what a great offensive line looks like. With Trent Green slinging passes and Priest Holmes running behind them, the 2001-2003 seasons made Chiefs fans hopeful that they may finally reach the ever-elusive Super Bowl again. Unfortunately for all of us this never came to be. Instead we saw the team go through a slow decline over the next few seasons culminating in a 2-14 finish in 2008. Fast forward to today, and we see the Chiefs attempting to assemble something very similar to what they had in the early 2000s. Instead of Trent Green we now have Patrick Mahomes, and Priest Holmes has been replaced by Kareem Hunt. The Chiefs have even made solid investments at every spot across the line—with the obvious exception of the left guard spot. One such investment was 2015 second round pick Mitch Morse. Morse was drafted to replace former Chief and current Oakland Raiders center Rodney Hudson. He had some big shoes to fill, but he proved earl that the NFL was not too big for him. Morse became a day one starter for the Chiefs and impressed in his first game: To do this well against Vince Wilfork for your first ever NFL game was remarkable to say the least. He continued to be a solid addition to the team only missing one game in the 2015 season. The one game he missed was due to a concussion while playing against the Buffalo Bills that season. Morse returned from the injury to then play in the next 24 games over the rest of the 2015 and the entirety of the 2016 seasons. More from Arrowhead Addict Are the Kansas City Chiefs building the best offense in team history? The Chiefs work at cornerback called a “patchwork job” Anthony Lynn: Chiefs, not Chargers, team to beat in AFC West Patrick Mahomes among players with most to prove in 2018 DeMarcus Robinson, Chris Conley and the battle at wide receiver The 2017 season is where the injury bug really bit Morse. During the Chiefs Week 2 game against the Philadelphia Eagles, he sprained his foot. Morse missed the next five games before returning to play Week 8 of last season. He was not the same upon returning, and ended up re-injuring his foot in Week 14. After the second time, the Chiefs decided to shut him down for the season by placing him on injured reserve. After being place on IR, Morse seems to have acquired the perception that he is often injured. Looking at these first few years of his career, I don’t know how we can put that label to Morse. He has had one significant injury in his short career. While that did wipe out the majority of his 2017 season, it does not take away from the fact that he had only missed one game over a two-year span previous to that. With that addressed, the next question is what should Kansas City do with him from here? Morse is entering a contract year and, as of now, the Chiefs have no viable backup option on the roster. Unless Brett Veach is counting on Cameron Erving to develop further and take over the position. he could attempt to extend Morse early if the Missouri product would agree to it. If Veach could accomplish that, he would be able to keep his overall contract down while locking down the position for the next few years. To put in perspective of how much Morse would cost look no further than former Chief Zach Fulton. The contract that Fulton signed with the Houston Texans this offseason has a total value of $28 million with a payout of $7M per year. Now whether or not the Chiefs will be willing to pay that much is up for debate. With the contracts of Reggie Ragland, Tyreek Hill, Kendall Fuller, and others ending at the end of 2019. Signing anyone before that may be risking cutting into those future contracts. While being able to resign Morse to a team friendly deal would be ideal. Morse will most likely bet on himself and play out his contract. This means the Chiefs could be looking at a possible bidding war for his continued service. With Erving also hitting the open market at the end of this season, the Chiefs could have a big hole on their offensive line at the end of this season. The Chiefs have invested quite a bit of money in the offensive line, and should continue to do so. Making sure Mahomes has a clean pocket has to continue to be a top priority for the Chiefs moving forward. Load Comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Considering that we tried to sign an OC to a huge deal they are either considering Morse somewhere else or want to upgrade the position. Either way I don't see a future with Morse in KC at this point but he might turn some heads this year and earn a big paycheck in KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted May 22, 2018 Share Posted May 22, 2018 Oline is 21% of our cap this year and what I consider a weakness. We are 14th highest paid line which isn't ridiculous. And much of that is Fisher. $36 million on oline and $14 million of that is Fisher. (3rd highest cap hit of any olineman) Durability is one of our biggest problems. Getting 5 guys that can play together for a season would be a great way to know what we have. I Morse significantly better than Hudson or Fulton? Probably, but debatable depending out how you define "significantly". Are Fulton and Hudson over paid? Definitely. I think Morse will be also unless we get lucky. My guess is he is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Too early to declare what will happen in any direction. If he plays more at his previous level, he'll get an extension. They have 35m in space for 2019 currently and nobody that's a lock in the "gotta re-sign" category. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If he plays at his previous level he will be the worst of the last three centers we have had, morse, fulton, hudson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If he plays at his previous level he will be the worst of the last three centers we have had, morse, fulton, hudson Considering we had to change the entire line scheme so fulton didn't look like shit... uh no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 If he plays at his previous level he will be the worst of the last three centers we have had, morse, fulton, hudson Dude was a high end pass-blocker the two years he wasn't battling a foot injury. This is a bad take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Dude was a high end pass-blocker the two years he wasn't battling a foot injury. This is a bad take. Agree. When healthy Morse was a top 5 center in the league. He’s just rarely healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 Agree. When healthy Morse was a top 5 center in the league. He’s just rarely healthy. It was the same injury over the course of one season. I don’t know how that could be considered rarely healthy. Compare that to Berry and how many games he’s missed over his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 It was the same injury over the course of one season. I don’t know how that could be considered rarely healthy. Compare that to Berry and how many games he’s missed over his career. The difference is that Berry is a game changer when healthy, he's basically a QB on defense. Morse is pretty good at OC but the difference he makes compared to mediocre guys like Fulton isn't as significant. IMO Hudson was a better OC for us than Morse has been but both played in different schemes (even under the same regime) so it's basically apples vs oranges but I believe we might end up opting to replace Morse with a rookie for cap savings considering how both Hudson and Fulton got overpaid in FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,607 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 There are 16 centers listed as free agents next year. I bet he will not go as high and supply demand could get us a good one if he does go higher than willing to pay. http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/2019/center/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 It was the same injury over the course of one season. I don’t know how that could be considered rarely healthy. Compare that to Berry and how many games he’s missed over his career. I don't think it is actually fair to call a player "injury-prone." It is known that injecting steroids into a site of injury delays, and can actually inhibit, healing completely. The same thing that cause tissue to heal makes it hurt (inflammation - which releases growth factors). It is done to have someone available in the face of poor depth at a position. It is purely mercenary and short-term thinking by training and medical staff who probably don't understand how profoundly that steroid injections prevent healing or make the healed tissues weaker, leading to re-injury. It merely makes it feel better for awhile. I wonder how many training staff realize the extent of that and how many medical doctors succumb to the pressure of rich owners. As for multiple injuries in other areas of the body, it is mostly just chance and sometimes whether opposing players or coaches are trying to cause injuries. I know for a fact the old Raiders did this and should have lost their franchise back then. Remember "The Assassin"? On another subject, injuries in general are becoming more of a determinant as to who wins championships than the players and coaches' talent, ability, and knowledge. There are way too many injuries. Unfortunately, the league has to either reduce injuries through rules that fans won't like, or the league will simply die. I'd like 1) to see the game survive, 2) to have the best teams win rather than the luckiest teams, and 3) see the real stars have longer careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Dude was a high end pass-blocker the two years he wasn't battling a foot injury. This is a bad take. Except that when you aren’t healthy 90% of the time referencing his healthy play is irrelevant. Fact remains when fulton moved to center the line improved, can blame scheme changes all you want but its a fact. That being said i would love them to move morse to guard to avoid concussions and take advantage of his skill set better, he could prove me wrong at guard. At some point we have to stop paying replaceable lineman like they are studs. Luckily we avoided that with hudson and fulton. In terms of contracts I probably differ from others as well in terms of fisher. Fishcer is overpayed, but i much prefer his deal than what they did with ldt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 90%? You're literally pulling numbers from your butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Dude is hurt too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 90%? You're literally pulling numbers from your butt. Am i? Foot injury and concussions the majority of the time his entire career. If you removed the fact he was a 2nd round pick what would everyone think of this player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Am i? Foot injury and concussions the majority of the time his entire career. If you removed the fact he was a 2nd round pick what would everyone think of this player Yeah, you're pulling it directly from your ass. Seeing that he didn't miss a single game in 2016 that right there says your figure is total bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Yeah, you're pulling it directly from your ass. Seeing that he didn't miss a single game in 2016 that right there says your figure is total bullshit. You do realize playing injured is a possible thing right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 So fucking what? If we didn't extend everyone that played hurt nearly 100% of the time, we'd have 2 players on the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CranjisMcbasketball 780 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 You are acting as if this player isn’t injury prone, which he clearly is. I have made my mind of that this player can not be given a new contract regardless of how he plays this year. My stance is clear i am done on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 You are acting as if this player isn’t injury prone, which he clearly is. I have made my mind of that this player can not be given a new contract regardless of how he plays this year. My stance is clear i am done on this topic.I agree with your take as far as extending him unless this guy can get through a season. Center should be anchoring the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 You are acting as if this player isn’t injury prone, which he clearly is. I have made my mind of that this player can not be given a new contract regardless of how he plays this year. My stance is clear i am done on this topic. Keep moving the goal posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Considering that we tried to sign an OC to a huge deal they are either considering Morse somewhere else or want to upgrade the position. Either way I don't see a future with Morse in KC at this point but he might turn some heads this year and earn a big paycheck in KC. Guess I missed it....what center did we try to sign to a huge deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Guess I missed it....what center did we try to sign to a huge deal? We were going after Ryan Jensen according to the reports. The news came out that we called him and some claim we made an offer as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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