DieHard 2,061 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Lots of drops, couldn’t run the ball. Hard for me to buy into that being on Reid. I would rewatch it to refresh my memory, but don’t have the stomach for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfscall 204 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 All I remember about the TN loss were: drops and a magical "forward progress" call. Smh The QB throwing a touchdown pass to himself was a backbreaker. It gave them hope and was another "Oh shit, here we go again" moment for KC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 No. Rebuild the rest of the D through the draft. I like the Watkins signing. I wouldn't call it CYA, I'd call it pick your poison. I also think the changes will take this offense to a whole... notha... level. Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 The QB throwing a touchdown pass to himself was a backbreaker. It gave them hope and was another "Oh shit, here we go again" moment for KC. That ain't no joke. Unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 We all seemed to agree that the loss to Pittsburgh sealed Smiths fate in KC and led directly to the Chiefs drafting Mahomes. We had to endure another second half of offensive futility in the playoff loss to the Titans the very next year. Hope that they have surrounded Mahomes with enough weapons to be successful in the playoffs now. If Smith was still here The Watkins signing would have never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 We all seemed to agree that the loss to Pittsburgh sealed Smiths fate in KC and led directly to the Chiefs drafting Mahomes. We had to endure another second half of offensive futility in the playoff loss to the Titans the very next year. Hope that they have surrounded Mahomes with enough weapons to be successful in the playoffs now. If Smith was still here The Watkins signing would have never happened. Smith was a master of "getting to" the playoffs. A great QB, but that was his limit. KC needs more. I'd rather not get there than get there and lose again. Been there. Done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 The QB throwing a touchdown pass to himself was a backbreaker. It gave them hope and was another "Oh shit, here we go again" moment for KC. Yup. Luck catches a lucky ball bounce for. TD. Mariota throws a TD pass to himself. Chiefs have the worst luck in the playoffs. That doesn't even count the horrible calls by refs. Hoping Mahomes ends this theme sooner than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonder 47 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Injuries or not they got shut out the second half. Thats 100% on the Head Coach. He choked. I agree having more weapons would have helped. That game they blew a huge halftime lead against a not great team. Andy had receivers open. It was Alex who wouldn’t throw the ball. I will never forgive that bastard for refusing to throw on 3rd and 13. The dumbass ran the ball in a CLEAN POCKET. God I’m glad he’s gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I like Alex but he had obvious limitations as some have already expressed. Great QB's are usually defined not by what they do during the regular season but the postseason. Smith's record there is unimpressive. I can't wait until we get the the playoffs again with Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Reid, Dorsey, & Alex took us from a laughing stock to contenders pretty damn fast and I will be very grateful for it. That said, I think Smith took us as far as he could and hopefully PM will be the one who gets us over the hump. I hold no ill will towards AS. I will also say I'm not convinced even PM can stop Reid from hitting the brakes with a lead, we will find out soon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan4pres 125 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I think it is going to be very interesting to see how aggressive Mahomes will be coming out of the chute this year. I'm sure Reid will stress to him that the conservative throw is sometimes the best throw but his natural inclination is to let it go. I really don't recall if McNabb was fairly conservative his first few games with Philly but I suspect Reid will try to rein Mahomes in at least a little bit. I really hope that Mahomes will be a good thing for Andy and maybe the offense won't turtle up as much with a lead. Reid has to realize you can be smart with the ball but still be aggressive and put teams away. Maybe some of that was Smith's doing, I don't know. With our defense we should be trying to score every time we touch the ball. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 I think it is going to be very interesting to see how aggressive Mahomes will be coming out of the chute this year. I'm sure Reid will stress to him that the conservative throw is sometimes the best throw but his natural inclination is to let it go. I really don't recall if McNabb was fairly conservative his first few games with Philly but I suspect Reid will try to rein Mahomes in at least a little bit. I really hope that Mahomes will be a good thing for Andy and maybe the offense won't turtle up as much with a lead. Reid has to realize you can be smart with the ball but still be aggressive and put teams away. Maybe some of that was Smith's doing, I don't know. With our defense we should be trying to score every time we touch the ball. Period. Absolutely. I couldn't agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 I think it is going to be very interesting to see how aggressive Mahomes will be coming out of the chute this year. I'm sure Reid will stress to him that the conservative throw is sometimes the best throw but his natural inclination is to let it go. I really don't recall if McNabb was fairly conservative his first few games with Philly but I suspect Reid will try to rein Mahomes in at least a little bit. I really hope that Mahomes will be a good thing for Andy and maybe the offense won't turtle up as much with a lead. Reid has to realize you can be smart with the ball but still be aggressive and put teams away. Maybe some of that was Smith's doing, I don't know. With our defense we should be trying to score every time we touch the ball. Period. Rewatching Hard Knocks last night I heard Bucs coach Dirk Koetter say something to M Winston that probably applies well here. “We know you have the ability to win some games for us, but that can’t come at the expense of losing games for us too.” Being an effective game manager is crucial to Mahomes development. Knowing how to measure good risk vs bad and sometimes just taking what defense gives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Looks like we needed defense more that a 16 million dollar receiver? Not sure why Reid & company were down on the current WRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 11:11 AM, Sonder said: Andy had receivers open. It was Alex who wouldn’t throw the ball. I will never forgive that bastard for refusing to throw on 3rd and 13. The dumbass ran the ball in a CLEAN POCKET. God I’m glad he’s gone Alex Smith was #1 in Yds/Pass Att He was Tied for 8th in Yds/Pass Cmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 12:59 AM, dhitter said: I like Alex but he had obvious limitations as some have already expressed. Great QB's are usually defined not by what they do during the regular season but the postseason. Smith's record there is unimpressive. I can't wait until we get the the playoffs again with Mahomes. Yet everyone disses Flacco.....smdh While praising Stafford..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 On 6/23/2018 at 11:11 AM, Sonder said: Andy had receivers open. It was Alex who wouldn’t throw the ball. I will never forgive that bastard for refusing to throw on 3rd and 13. The dumbass ran the ball in a CLEAN POCKET. God I’m glad he’s gone http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000921980/printable/alex-smith-matthew-stafford-head-top-deepball-throwers-of-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,608 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 31 minutes ago, Handswarmer said: Alex Smith was #1 in Yds/Pass Att He was Tied for 8th in Yds/Pass Cmp How did he look in the 2nd half against Titans when Kelce went down? We needed another threat to overcome this injury type scenario. Another good receiving TE wouod be huge too in the draft to keep it all going. Guy would just turtle up and coat us games when he could not lead us when needed in offense. There were games that cost us and it was almost always leaning on the defense to win it until last year. Even then he had offensive lapse in games where we did jack shot for most of the game or when we needed it the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 7 hours ago, Handswarmer said: Yet everyone disses Flacco.....smdh While praising Stafford..... I have never said one bad thing about Flacco. Not my style. I have no right to dis any team that's gotten a SB ring this century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 So the Chiefs are paying Watkins the same dollars per year that the Giants are paying Odell Beckham. Seems about right. Veach wayyyyyyyyy overpaid for this dude. https://www.google.com/amp/s/profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/08/27/objs-deal-has-real-base-value-of-16-4-million-per-year/amp/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 19 hours ago, kkuenn said: How did he look in the 2nd half against Titans when Kelce went down? We needed another threat to overcome this injury type scenario. Another good receiving TE wouod be huge too in the draft to keep it all going. Guy would just turtle up and coat us games when he could not lead us when needed in offense. There were games that cost us and it was almost always leaning on the defense to win it until last year. Even then he had offensive lapse in games where we did jack shot for most of the game or when we needed it the most. That's Smith's fault for not having another option? What about West, Harris, Wilson? Gameplan was for Kelce- once he went down, they didn't adjust. Thats on the staff- Reid and Nagy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 12 hours ago, dhitter said: I have never said one bad thing about Flacco. Not my style. I have no right to dis any team that's gotten a SB ring this century. Not you bro- I guess I should have written "Almost everyone" Its all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Flacco sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 20 hours ago, Handswarmer said: Alex Smith was #1 in Yds/Pass Att He was Tied for 8th in Yds/Pass Cmp Tyreek Hill was 7th in the NFL in receiving yardage with a minimum of 37 fewer targets than anyone ahead of him. And anyone that watched the Chiefs Steelers playoff game two years ago vividly remembers Tyreek breaking wide open twice and not getting the ball either time. The MO on Alex is he leaves to many plays on the field and it burns you at critical times. Other than that he’s a very solid second tier QB. I’ve always liked him. But when you only score 6 points combined in the second half of two home playoff games, it’s a big reason they went all in with Mahomes even if it means taking a step back in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, reesebobby said: Flacco sucks. Yup, Sure does suck having a Super Bowl Ring. Jealousy does not look good on you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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