Chiefswinitall 60 Posted June 21, 2018 Share Posted June 21, 2018 During the mock drafts I thought we were going for another Dend so I was surprised we didn't take one. I would like another D-end player like Chris Jones. The guy at arrowheadpride said the defense fell apart when he left the playoff game. You guys satisfied with Bailey? .http://www.ourlads.com/nfldepthcharts/depthchart/KC Notice the depth chart and Dee Liner backing up Jones at D-end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I'm fine with Bailey. He has been decent when playing with a good NT next to him. If we can finally solidify the middle Bailey will be a good contributor. He has always regressed after the injuries but that's basically a league wide problem in the trenches. We can definitely upgrade but we had higher priorities. He'll be leaving next year and I wouldn't be surprised if DE is our #1 target in the draft after signing a 1-year stop gap at DE. Also I'm not sure where KPass fits right now but they might be considering moving him to DE at some point. He has the size and strength for it. I believe it's a slim chance but we never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Sith, word is kpass has been exclusively backing up OLB this offseason. personally i think that's his position. Agreed Bailey is serviceable. He's definitely not the problem. I also agree we will be drafting his replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 The D line as a whole isn't bad when you think about the whole picture of a front 7. DE rely on OLB to do their job just as much as an OLB relies on a DE to their job. It's hard for a DE to contain an end if the OLB is out of position and not able to capitalize. Same for the Chiefs ILBs. The front 7 played better as the season went along and that is when the ILB rotation became more favorable with DJ getting more bench time. When an ILB plugs a gap quicker, the flaws don't develop along the D line. I guess I'm using the theory of too much time will provide the offense an opportunity to beat you... think about secondary covering receivers. Too much time to cover will often lead to a receiver getting open. Frank Zombo is not a starter. Ford being injury prone hurts. Hali taking up a roster spot while not providing any help hurts. So 2017 season the DE on the opposite side of Houston had one hell of a tough job to do. So for me, I think the D line will play much better this season...if the OLB's and ILB's play as we hope they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Honestly we don't play 2 DEs all the time anyway. Most of the time we're running 2 d-linemen, Jones and whomever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Honestly we don't play 2 DEs all the time anyway. Most of the time we're running 2 d-linemen, Jones and whomever. Good point. Arrowhead Pride had a good article about the 2 DL front the Chiefs run a lot and could excel at with this speedier defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I am good with Bailey. He had a down year last year but so did every defensive player not named Ragland. I think he is fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Warparty 69 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Never been a Bailey fan. AND, he's making way too much for his production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Agreed with the over paid statement for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Warparty 69 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 I will say Bailey was really coming on the year he tore him peck against the Raiders. Too me he hasn't matched that level of play consitently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DieHard 2,061 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Wow. Wilkerson didn’t get much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 Well the perception, true or not, is that wilkerson quit trying after he got that big contract. He has a lot to prove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 In his last 30 starts the guy has 52 solo tackles and 6.5 sacks. Hes a complete bum. If you are ok with him starting then you have pretty low standards in my opinion. If you are ok with him starting knowing he has a cap number just shy of 8 million dollars...you need to go work for John Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,693 Posted June 23, 2018 Share Posted June 23, 2018 In his last 30 starts the guy has 52 solo tackles and 6.5 sacks. Hes a complete bum. If you are ok with him starting then you have pretty low standards in my opinion. If you are ok with him starting knowing he has a cap number just shy of 8 million dollars...you need to go work for John Dorsey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I don’t know how anyone could be fine with dline after it was brutally exposed after Chris Jones was injured in the playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I am very worried about the Dline. I am looking at Bailey as the #2 guy on the Dline and that is scary. If the rook and the FA backup can Man the middle, maybe we can be OK. Cutting Nacho loose makes me uncomfortable. Just don’t know what we have at DE beyond Jones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 In his last 30 starts the guy has 52 solo tackles and 6.5 sacks. Hes a complete bum. If you are ok with him starting then you have pretty low standards in my opinion. If you are ok with him starting knowing he has a cap number just shy of 8 million dollars...you need to go work for John Dorsey. I guess you are aware that our best player (Chris Jones) has 39 and 8.5. If that is a complete bum then that is what Chris Jones is. Not sure I am buying that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I'm not satisfied with a single position group on defense except for ILB's. Every other group we have one solid guy and a BUNCH of questions. Bailey isn't the one player to make or break us with his play,there's an entire list lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I guess you are aware that our best player (Chris Jones) has 39 and 8.5. If that is a complete bum then that is what Chris Jones is. Not sure I am buying that. I'm not buying that Chris Jones is our best player. But at least his numbers are trending in the right direction and he isnt overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,608 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I guess you are aware that our best player (Chris Jones) has 39 and 8.5. If that is a complete bum then that is what Chris Jones is. Not sure I am buying that. Jones also only started 18 games just 7 in his rookie year. I think you will see much more from Jones compared to Bailey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I'm not buying that Chris Jones is our best player. But at least his numbers are trending in the right direction and he isnt overpaid. He’s our best dlinemen. Justin Houston is our best defensive player . I think he’s becoming underrated by the fan base because he hasn’t had a monster sack season in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 I guess you are aware that our best player (Chris Jones) has 39 and 8.5. If that is a complete bum then that is what Chris Jones is. Not sure I am buying that. Any time someone uses box score stats to evaluate a DL player they probably already lost credibility. Not saying Bailey is anything special but box score stat arguments are so 90's. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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