wilkie 1,518 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 Veech needs to find another guy not on this roster. Also we gave up 4.7 yards avg against the run but neither Ragland or Hitchens our starting ILBs played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 1 hour ago, CHiefSP said: Pretty much this. LDT has his moments, also. Our LT is dog shit. I’ve never liked fisher. He’s average on his best day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fmbl2187 2,279 Posted August 10, 2018 Share Posted August 10, 2018 The sky is falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhitter 1,424 Posted August 11, 2018 Share Posted August 11, 2018 11 hours ago, Calichief said: Schwartz is easily in the top 3 at his spot. the rest are poop. Cali...respect your "opinion" regarding Schwartz although every lineman list I've been able to dig up via PFF and other sites do not list him. I would concede he might be top ten at his position. But easily in the Top 3? You'll have to make me a believer I guess...lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I think we slightly over rate Schwartz and under rate Fisher. They are not that far apart. Definitely Schwartz is better. Schwartz is not top ten and Fisher is not bottom ten. PFF rating are a whole other conversation. I will say they are both tough and stay on the field with no major injuries. That is critical. I am good with both even though both have bad games here and there. Not denying both got schooled by backups. But they both pack a lunch and come to work even if they are sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Ugh hate to break it to you guys but Mitch Schwartz is a top 3 right tackle. Consider: He has been at least 2nd or 3rd team All Pro each of the last 3 years. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/awards/ For 2017 PFF had him ranked second in pass block snaps per QB hit or hurry allowed and 10th overall among all tackles, left or right, in pass blocking efficiency. PFW had him as the 3rd best right tackle and 8th overall among all tackles prior to last year. http://www.profootballweekly.com/lists/2017/06/30/823cc976dd2f43ec82cf296d1f5b543f/index.xml?page=2 B/R has him rated the 2nd highest graded right tackle of 2017. https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2755359-nfl1000-ranking-the-top-right-tackles-of-2017-season.amp.html This list has him 13th overall but top 3 among RT's. List is heavily weighted towards LT's. https://athlonsports.com/nfl/nfl-offensive-linemen-rankings?amp This last one is from PFFs OL rankings list heading into 2018: "The Chiefs are the definition of a solid, if unspectacular, unit. Mitchell Schwartz is one of the best right tackles in the game – earning an 80.0 overall grade last season – but pretty much everyone else on the line is right around average for their position. That gets the job done in today’s NFL though where oftentimes a line is only as strong as its weakest link." btw they had LDT right behind Schwartz at a 78.2 grade. Fisher right at 70 grade. Everything else was crap last year grading in the 40's. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-entering-2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,017 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Anddd thank you xen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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