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3 minutes ago, Chiefsfan1963 said:

With the new rules coming into play this year, the Chiefs DBs may be very successful. The NFL is cracking down on contact by defenders and everyone knows the Chiefs DBs play way off so they shouldn't have too many penalties called on them.

Hard to get a penalty when you are chasing the receiver down and 10 yards behind. 😉

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7 minutes ago, Chiefsfan1963 said:

With the new rules coming into play this year, the Chiefs DBs may be very successful. The NFL is cracking down on contact by defenders and everyone knows the Chiefs DBs play way off so they shouldn't have too many penalties called on them.

This is a young team.  Penalties are going to drive us straight up the wall this season.  So, I disagree completely.  We are going to drawn offsides and get holding calls with maddening regularity.  There will be defensive holding calls in the secondary and PI until blood is coming from our ears.  We are going to get a lot of shit our of our system in preparation for 2019 and beyond.  Still, it will be fun seeing these kids learn the ropes and show us a future.

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21 minutes ago, Fmbl2187 said:

This is a young team.  Penalties are going to drive us straight up the wall this season.  So, I disagree completely.  We are going to drawn offsides and get holding calls with maddening regularity.  There will be defensive holding calls in the secondary and PI until blood is coming from our ears.  We are going to get a lot of shit our of our system in preparation for 2019 and beyond.  Still, it will be fun seeing these kids learn the ropes and show us a future.

Unless the DBs are constantly blitzing they shouldn't be caught offsides. As far as PI goes they have to be within 5 yards of a receiver first.

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Kansas City Chiefs: Cornerbacks Group Is Improved From Last Season

The Kansas City Chiefs did little to address the cornerback position this offseason. However, the group is an upgrade of what they had Week One of 2017.

The Kansas City Chiefs are entering the 2018 regular season with the same concern as they had last season. Outside of Marcus Peters last season, the team had nothing behind him when entering the 2017 Week 1 game against the New England Patriots. While they failed to properly address the issue this offseason, in my opinion, they are still better than what they had to begin last season.

When Kansas City traveled to New England for the NFL opener, Marcus Peters was the only cornerback on the roster worth noting. Given that the Chiefs and most of the league deploy three cornerbacks 70% of the time roughly, that’s not a good situation to be in when you’re taking on the defending champs on the road.

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Even with the lack of talent in the cornerback group, Kansas City was able to pull off an upset and win big against the Patriots. Not only that, but the team started off hot winning it’s first five games against some top offenses. We all look at the tough schedule that Kansas City will face in the first quarter of the season, but we forget how tough the schedule was to start last season with worse options.

In 2017, the Chiefs won five straight games beating the Patriots, Eagles, Chargers, Redskins, and the Texans. It wasn’t until Week 6 that the team took their first loss, and that loss wasn’t due to points given up by the defense. In that game against the Steelers, the defense gave up 19 points. It was the offense that failed to produce.

Let’s take a look at the cornerbacks that the team started with last season. Marcus Peters, Phillip Gaines, Terrance Mitchell/ Kenneth Acker took almost all of the snaps during the first seven weeks of the season. Steven Nelson was on Injured Reserve until the game against the Denver Broncos in Week 8. When he did return, he wasn’t back to game shape and struggled for the first few games.

As Kansas City travels to Los Angeles this weekend to kick off the regular season, they will be sending out Kendall Fuller, Steven Nelson, and Orlando Scandrick as the starters. It’s a relief that the team actually saw the writing on the wall and dropped David Amerson. Fuller was acquired in the trade sending Alex Smith to Washington this offseason.

Nelson enters the season healthy. While he suffered a concussion in Week 2 of the preseason, he has been back with the team in practice and ready to go for Sunday afternoon. Scandrick was a late transaction after being dropped by the Redskins midway through the preseason. While he’s on a decline as he enters the 10th season of his career, I still feel that he is at least an average starter.

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Even when you look at the backups to the Chiefs cornerbacks, the team seems to at least have more potential. In 2017, the two cornerbacks that were backing up the starters were Kenneth Acker and Keith Reaser. This season, the team is holding onto two rookies in sixth-round pick Tremon Smith and UDFA acquired in a trade with the Dallas Cowboys, Charvarious Ward. UDFA rookie cornerback Arrion Springs has signed to the practice squad.

Even if you want to look at the later part of the 2017 season, the cornerback situation has improved. The only difference was adding the aged veteran cornerback Darrelle Revis late in the season. I would even take Scandrick over him honestly. In the last four games of the season when the team got back on track, Kansas City only allowed more than 20 points once which was against the Denver Broncos when the starters were benched.

Holding the Oakland Raiders to 15 points, the Los Angeles Chargers who were on a huge win streak with a dominating offense only scored 13, and the Miami Dolphins were also head to 13 points. The team has shown that they can play well with even sloppy cornerback play, but overall, I think the cornerback position while not addressed as aggressively as it should have been, is better than last seasons roster.

Add in the fact that the front seven of the defense has seen a massive overhaul in upgraded talent; I feel better about the defense than I did going into the playoffs last season. If the Chiefs can find a way to plug the holes in the running game with their new inside linebacker and defensive linemen and get after the passer with Justin Houston fully healthy while also having help from anyone outside of Frank Zombo, it should be a better season.

I’m not ready to be entirely optimistic about this defense and coordinator Bob Sutton, but there is some reason to have some hope when it comes to that side of the ball. Let’s not forget that the Chargers have the same offensive weapons as they’ve had the last couple of seasons and haven’t been able to put up numbers against the Chiefs. Combining the two games against Los Angeles last season, the defense gave up 23 points.

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The dbs outside of fuller and nelson(if healthy) dont have a chance of covering for any length of time. The more realistic possibility of the secondary playing well is houston being healthy, chris jones being a beast, and the emergence of another pass rusher be it dee ford, tanoh, or speaks getting there fast enough they dont have to cover.

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I love all the optimism but don't really expect much from the CBs. We have 2 guys that are decent and Safeties are a concern besides Berry (assuming he's healthy). In reality our entire secondary depends on Berry being back 100%, otherwise it'll be a very long year. 

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Hard to predict. Like West said, with no rush you have to play soft zone and hope a drive stalls. Fuller is a stud. Better than the 2017 Peters, but not the previous Peters. I know that is just a crazy prediction, but I believe it. Nelson is OK but let’s see him stay healthy. 

Bottom line is, last year we could not man up and get after it. Looking like we have a better pass rush. But is it enough? 

Not playing soft in coverage may not be an option. That said, I think Houston bounces back. I also think Kpass is 85% ready. Still a year early IMO, but the guy will be legit.

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