FANATIC 852 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 30 minutes ago, gochiefsgo said: Yeah but I’m not concerned that the Chiefs wouldn’t pick the right guys if the had 2 3rd round picks next year. Kelce and Hunt were third round draft picks, I think. Hill was a 5th. I’m desperate for a super bowl guys. With this offense the time is now. But I defer to your superior draft acumen. I think a super bowl trophy is worth anything Love this team but one guy will not make a big enough difference. This defense simply sucks and has no depth. Its 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 We have all watched the last three games. We know the weakness. Murray is not Eric Berry and whoever else they throw in there. Parker.. This would be the best safety tandem in the NFL. Middle of the field would be gone. Just saying. Not sure on cap implications and who cares? Don’t waste this offensive juggernaut! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 The problem is he wants paid. I bet we could trade a 5th for him, it's the salary compensation that just doesn't make sense for us in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Love seeing the success Mahomes and the offense is having, still tired of watching the defense just quit with these huge leads. Is Bob Sutton gone yet? I will say, if somehow the Chiefs were to add either B. Breeland or E. Thomas that could be a huge boost to the defense assuming E. Berry comes back at some point as well. I would be willing to give SEA a 3rd for Thomas, nothing more because we'd only really have him for 8 games or so. Not sure I would give him big $ on an extension, either. Not sure about anything in getting Thomas but is is intriguing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamixoye 604 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 When did Ford go out? I didn't realize he was gone. He was effective to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, dksww said: Love seeing the success Mahomes and the offense is having, still tired of watching the defense just quit with these huge leads. Is Bob Sutton gone yet? I will say, if somehow the Chiefs were to add either B. Breeland or E. Thomas that could be a huge boost to the defense assuming E. Berry comes back at some point as well. I would be willing to give SEA a 3rd for Thomas, nothing more because we'd only really have him for 8 games or so. Not sure I would give him big $ on an extension, either. Not sure about anything in getting Thomas but is is intriguing. Totally interested but like Zen said, the price might be too high. I’m so stoked about this offense I’m not wanting to wait another year and hope it keeps churning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,158 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 7 minutes ago, FANATIC said: Love this team but one guy will not make a big enough difference. This defense simply sucks and has no depth. Its 2019. Agreed. I also want a superbowl badly, but if would have to be a slam dunk acquisition, and I'm not sure it is. I was holding out hope that they were not that bad, but giving up 400 yards to the niners is too much. It would have to be an unbelievable scenario. Fleece the Seahawks for Thomas, somehow Sutton changes and attacks with Houston & Ford (along with Ford not being hurt), along with Berry coming back and playing at a pro bowl level, along with Thomas. Not going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just now, gochiefsgo said: Totally interested but like Zen said, the price might be too high. I’m so stoked about this offense I’m not wanting to wait another year and hope it keeps churning. I agree, I said I would be willing to give up a 3rd because if you let him walk in FA you get a 3rd round comp in 2020. I'm not sure about that tho since it's an in season trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Thegoatee said: I feel like this may be the first game in a long time where the calls went our way. Yeah, it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 hour ago, sith13 said: The entire coaching staff melted down in the second half. So much confusion and a blowout becomes a game. Not blaming the coaching for the lack of offense in the second half. Harris dropped a first down and the hold on LDT prevented a first down on the Niner's 5. That's to probable scores wiped out. Also, the Chiefs always had a two score lead. Bad time for Mahomes possible first INT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 35 minutes ago, FANATIC said: Love this team but one guy will not make a big enough difference. This defense simply sucks and has no depth. Its 2019. One guy could make a huge difference. One stop on third and long can change a whole game. The Chiefs can't rely on scoring at this rate and they need defensive stops when they do have the lead. Not saying a safety will make the defense good, it won't, but making it better might be enough to win a few more games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Anyone else think Ramik Wilson should have been kept over Ragland? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Even if we could swing it why would we? They're both going to be 30. And if you're gonna pay Thomas that much just pick him up as a free agent for next year. No draft capital required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 27 minutes ago, DefensiveMan said: Anyone else think Ramik Wilson should have been kept over Ragland? No. 5 minutes ago, xen said: Even if we could swing it why would we? They're both going to be 30. And if you're gonna pay Thomas that much just pick him up as a free agent for next year. No draft capital required. Because they have a great window to win it all right now today if they can get a middle of the pack D. As for the 30 mark, a safety that takes care of themselves still has a good 5 plus years of solid play left in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, liquidfriend said: No. Because they have a great window to win it all right now today if they can get a middle of the pack D. As for the 30 mark, a safety that takes care of themselves still has a good 5 plus years of solid play left in them. Hey look, like liquidfriend says, if this is a top 20 Defense it’s on. They could win it all. This year not 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,158 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, gochiefsgo said: Hey look, like liquidfriend says, if this is a top 20 Defense it’s on. They could win it all. This year not 2019. Yeah, but unfortunately they will not be a top 20 defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 6 minutes ago, liquidfriend said: No. Because they have a great window to win it all right now today if they can get a middle of the pack D. As for the 30 mark, a safety that takes care of themselves still has a good 5 plus years of solid play left in them. I don't think a safety makes this defense middle of the pack considering our corners. There is no magic fix for our secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 1 minute ago, qnet said: Yeah, but unfortunately they will not be a top 20 defense. Not sure about that. But after 3 subpar games you’re probably right.. unless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,158 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Just now, gochiefsgo said: Not sure about that. But after 3 subpar games you’re probably right.. unless I want t be wrong, really want to be. I'm just trying to be objective about it, and leave my emotions out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gochiefsgo 380 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Yeah agree completely but as an elder statesman of the Chiefs I have to think, if they can afford this, it would totally be a catalyst to fielding a real contender. Trust in Veach to figure it out. Enjoy the ride Chiefs fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Look if veach can work out a kc friendly deal I'm all for it. Just don't give up tomorrow for a quick fix that is unlikely to work out. I also don't think you can count on a 3rd round compensatory pick if he walks after this year, considering how driven those are by compensation and the depressed safety market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 23, 2018 Share Posted September 23, 2018 Yeah. Selling out for this year would be a mistake. This is the start of a dynasty. Build with young players. And corner is at the top of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 1 hour ago, xen said: I don't think a safety makes this defense middle of the pack considering our corners. There is no magic fix for our secondary. I would really, strongly advise you to key in on Eric Murray. I'm going to disagree with you here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Just now, liquidfriend said: I would really, strongly advise you to key in on Eric Murray. I'm going to disagree with you here. And I would like to advise you to check out the rest of the secondary, the middling pass rush and the middle linebackers in coverage. Eric Murray is not the extent of our issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, xen said: And I would like to advise you to check out the rest of the secondary, the middling pass rush and the middle linebackers in coverage. Eric Murray is not the extent of our issues. He's the biggest liability. I'm not saying the only one, but there isn't a single player out there that is worse than Eric Murray. Without quality play in the last level of the Defense, you're a 32nd ranked squad. They are 32nd because players get deep on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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