Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 If he misses time, (which he will because...Dee Ford) we are going to see exactly what Speaks is made of. Sucks because Ford has been good this season, but realistically we arent gonna throw money at him at years end with Houston already making 22 mill on the other side. So might as well see if Speaks looks like he can be a long term piece. Should be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VIChiefsFan 262 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Some players have talent but their bodies are not cut out to last in the NFL. Unfortunately we tend to give those players big contracts based on their talent and watch them sit on the sidelines. If this is an injury that costs Ford some time, I hope we learn from past mistakes and don't give him a big pay day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Ford is already done in KC. We are just waiting for his contract to run off. They thought he could be a LB but never became more than a pass rusher and a questionable one at that with only a great first step followed with nothing. If we are sticking with 3-4 it's about time we find guys accordingly, turning pass rushers to OLBs only worked with Houston and nobody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,781 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I am not sold on Speaks. Seems like he should be a DE in a 4-3. He looks as lost as Ford when he isn’t pancaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Why not Kpass? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I think Kpass gets the nod at first with Speaks rotating and in a couple weeks one of them stands out ahead of the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Kpass should get the reps IMO.more upside as a pass rusher. Houston is likely gone next year unless he improves his pass rush. They may open the door for a Ford deal. I have not been a fan, but starting to come around. Speaks and Kpass are the future. Hope they get a chance to put some snaps under their belt this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troyofoc 361 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Ford good riddance. Time to see what kpass has to offer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,608 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 20 minutes ago, DieHard said: Kpass should get the reps IMO.more upside as a pass rusher. Houston is likely gone next year unless he improves his pass rush. They may open the door for a Ford deal. I have not been a fan, but starting to come around. Speaks and Kpass are the future. Hope they get a chance to put some snaps under their belt this year. Keep Ford possibly but jettison Houston? No way would that work. I understand the cap savings etc but next year we have cap to use. I rather at least keep one decent pass rusher fo the 2 and Houston is far better than Ford. Just need to see what we have in the other 2 and go from there via draft or FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefswinitall 60 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 Keeping Houston depends on consistency. Some people are saying his play has dropped off and others like at Arrowhead pride say he's still making an impact. Not sure on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Keep Ford possibly but jettison Houston? No way would that work. I understand the cap savings etc but next year we have cap to use. I rather at least keep one decent pass rusher fo the 2 and Houston is far better than Ford. Just need to see what we have in the other 2 and go from there via draft or FA. I think KC should play simply play red rover red rover on defense. 🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvhouse24 1,808 Posted September 24, 2018 Author Share Posted September 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Thegoatee said: I am not sold on Speaks. Seems like he should be a DE in a 4-3. He looks as lost as Ford when he isn’t pancaked. Agreed. Its early, but agreed. Im hoping when Sutton gets canned after the year we hire a DC who runs an aggressive 43. Kpass and Speaks would both be better fits in that role IMO. I think ODaniel will be a better fit at OLB in a 43 as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 18 minutes ago, FANATIC said: I think KC should play simply play red rover red rover on defense. 🙄 We would get way more tackle that way haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 49 minutes ago, kkuenn said: Keep Ford possibly but jettison Houston? No way would that work. I understand the cap savings etc but next year we have cap to use. I rather at least keep one decent pass rusher fo the 2 and Houston is far better than Ford. Just need to see what we have in the other 2 and go from there via draft or FA. Maybe Ford isn't really hurt and he is just being included in the Earl Thomas trade MUAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 44 minutes ago, Balto said: Maybe Ford isn't really hurt and he is just being included in the Earl Thomas trade MUAHAHA I approve that trade. Actually I am curious to see if Ford keeps it up. He is a one trick pony unlike Houston, seems to be playing pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,115 Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 48 minutes ago, Balto said: Maybe Ford isn't really hurt and he is just being included in the Earl Thomas trade MUAHAHA That wouldn't be a bad thing at all. Both are on the last year of their deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 What sucks about this injury is that Dee Ford was at least able to garner enough attention to start freeing up Houston to get more pass rush ops. Houston responded with 5 tackles, 2 sacks and 2 forced fumbles yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 8 hours ago, Chiefswinitall said: Keeping Houston depends on consistency. Some people are saying his play has dropped off and others like at Arrowhead pride say he's still making an impact. Not sure on this. Houston is still a beast but dropped off as a pass rusher. Right now he resembles a 4-3 OLB more than a 3-4 OLB, as he's in coverage more often and setting the edge against the run seems more of a priority. When he goes after the QB I don't think he has his old "beast" mode but still way above average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 On 9/24/2018 at 4:51 PM, kkuenn said: Keep Ford possibly but jettison Houston? No way would that work. I understand the cap savings etc but next year we have cap to use. I rather at least keep one decent pass rusher fo the 2 and Houston is far better than Ford. Just need to see what we have in the other 2 and go from there via draft or FA. Fair point. Houston is definitely one of the best all round in the game. 21 mill just a tough pill to swallow when the D needs so much talent. But you can’t throw mad money at Ford. Hope Kpass and Speaks step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 Watching the 2 of the best supposed defenses get carved up by the opposing offenses tonight. With the rules and way they're calling games not sure I'd invest a lot in defense now days. The numbers say invest in slot receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 On 9/24/2018 at 5:27 PM, DieHard said: I approve that trade. Actually I am curious to see if Ford keeps it up. He is a one trick pony unlike Houston, seems to be playing pretty well. Ford sucks. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,781 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 14 hours ago, xen said: Watching the 2 of the best supposed defenses get carved up by the opposing offenses tonight. With the rules and way they're calling games not sure I'd invest a lot in defense now days. The numbers say invest in slot receivers. Thursday games screw up team chemistry and quality. It is usually all offense or all defense. Vikings look overrated. They should be 1-3 at this point. Rams are not going to be as good. Once Talib got hurt Rivers had his way with them. Same with Cousins yesterday. Get an injury to one of those on the DLine and they may be average to below average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,150 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 14 hours ago, xen said: Watching the 2 of the best supposed defenses get carved up by the opposing offenses tonight. With the rules and way they're calling games not sure I'd invest a lot in defense now days. The numbers say invest in slot receivers. The Rams are impressive but I think the Chiefs can beat them now. I wasn't sure before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, qnet said: The Rams are impressive but I think the Chiefs can beat them now. I wasn't sure before. I think we can beat the Rams, especially if Mr. Cam Erving keeps playing good. He still scares me, especially against Donald and Suh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted September 28, 2018 Share Posted September 28, 2018 28 minutes ago, Thegoatee said: Thursday games screw up team chemistry and quality. It is usually all offense or all defense. Vikings look overrated. They should be 1-3 at this point. Rams are not going to be as good. Once Talib got hurt Rivers had his way with them. Same with Cousins yesterday. Get an injury to one of those on the DLine and they may be average to below average. It proves an great QB with good offense, todays nfl rules, can torch a good defense all day long. Its almost becoming flag football. KC now has that elite QB and a great offense. I am so done with worrying about the D. Its more important for the majority of teams that do not have an elite QB. New World for US KC Fanatics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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