PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 26 minutes ago, Calichief said: He’s good for saving 5-7 points a game. He covers so pass rush can arrive. He’s proven. Draft picks are overrated. I can agree to an extent that draft picks are overrated. It depends on your scouts and GM. Veach has been both good and bad. Verdict won't be out for a few years yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 4 hours ago, Calichief said: Peterson makes this defense instantly better. Smh... So he can play ILB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamardirts 2,121 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 hours ago, PAChiefsFan79 said: Chiefs running defense is 28th. Cards are 32nd. Chiefs pass defense is 32nd. Cards pass D is 23rd. The Cards D has giving up more points than the Chiefs D. The Chiefs are NOT 1 CB away from being a good defense. They need help at multiple positions. But you can shake your head all you want, the Cards defense with Peterson doesn't impress me. Its a team sport and the Chiefs have multiple holes. Trading away draft picks for a 28 year old CB isn't going to solve the whole defenses problems in my opinion. He's a great CB, but he's not an entire defense. But that draft pick will? At the end of the day we need multiple players and probably a new DC. I fail to see how a draft pick will help us as much in te next 3 years as much as a 28 year all pro CB. But you are right we should hope our luck all of a sudden changes in regards to drafting DBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,812 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, liquidfriend said: So he can play ILB? Probably better than what we have now. 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, SEMO said: Probably better than what we have now. 😱 Well....yeah, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 I do agree that we are not one player away. He could conceivably elevate us from horrific to bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, DieHard said: I do agree that we are not one player away. He could conceivably elevate us from horrific to bad. I don't know about that. A shutdown corner would mean the QB has to hang on to the ball a little longer which would allow the pass rushers time to get to the QB. A stud pass rusher could force the QB to make poor decisions. A monster in the middle could force teams to be one dimensional. You never know what one person could do for a D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: I don't know about that. A shutdown corner would mean the QB has to hang on to the ball a little longer which would allow the pass rushers time to get to the QB. A stud pass rusher could force the QB to make poor decisions. A monster in the middle could force teams to be one dimensional. You never know what one person could do for a D. This! He’s make a huge difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Yeah, we aren't one player away on D, but we sure as hell could use a great CB regardless. Doesn't make is worse and only makes us better. Plus there no guarantee whoever we draft with that pick does anything useful. You rather have a proven Peterson or draft another Kpass we are still waiting on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Honestly at this point, I don't see any reason to trade for Defensive players. I can't help but think that werthers would just misuse whoever they picked up anyhow. I'd rather make a trade for a big piece to add onto the Offense or just hang onto what we've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I think a lineman is about all we need on offense. I would definitely like a good guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Maybe a Center if Mitch's brain is totally scrambled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Center would be nice. Even if Morse is fine. I think he would be an upgrade to guard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Earl Thomas was a unique situation so there could have really been something to that but otherwise a big splash player seems VERY unlikely. Can’t remember what source I read today but it basically said as much. They fully expect Sorenson and Berry back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,812 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, liquidfriend said: Honestly at this point, I don't see any reason to trade for Defensive players. I can't help but think that werthers would just misuse whoever they picked up anyhow. I'd rather make a trade for a big piece to add onto the Offense or just hang onto what we've got. At this point, I agree. He doesn’t play to their strengths. Fuller is ok outside, but he needs to be playing the slot where he excels. Sutton has ruined Hitchens turning him into a coverage linebacker. Dropping the EDGE guys into coverage, also. Until Reid dumps him, we are stuck with his scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I would agree that a CB doesn't have as much contribution value as a Safety or a LB for us right now but sure is a plus. My goal would be to upgrade the more urgent positions but wouldn't rule a guy like Peterson out. Keep in mind that we have only 1 decent CB under contract for 2019 so it's a need we have to fix with the draft/FA anyway. If the price is right I would love to add Peterson and not worry about the position for the next 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 5:17 PM, Mloe68 said: If we are going to take on a 6th corner (our 4-5 guys are both rookies), its probably not going to be another quickly fading 30 something like we have with Scandrick. I'll add our 5 corners are 22, 22, 23, 25 and 31. Age shouldn't be the focus. Playing ability should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Handswarmer said: Age shouldn't be the focus. Playing ability should be. Right now Webb would be a backup dime guy which clearly isn’t worth dumping a talented but raw rookie at three times the price for a veteran minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palangi 788 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 15 hours ago, liquidfriend said: Maybe a Center if Mitch's brain is totally scrambled I'd like to see the rookie kalil McKenzie taught center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Palangi said: I'd like to see the rookie kalil McKenzie taught center. I'd prefer he be at RG. Has the making of a good road grader there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Yeah considering our center calls the protections, probably not a good idea to put the guy who's never played oline there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAChiefsFan79 136 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/20/2018 at 11:11 AM, DieHard said: I do agree that we are not one player away. He could conceivably elevate us from horrific to bad. True. Which could be the difference in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 1 hour ago, PAChiefsFan79 said: True. Which could be the difference in the playoffs. After watching AJ GREEN tell me that he wouldn’t make a difference ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Wrong thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: Wrong thread No, this is the Patrick Peterson thread. Having lockdown number corner would make us take a huge leap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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