oldtimer 8,694 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 just saying..Teams seem to have a US AGAINST THE WORLD mentality after a major shake up..remember when RAC got the HC job after Haley got the boot?They pummeled the then mighty Packers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 No way with a superstar QB. Cleve is what it is....pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Yeah, I don't but it either. I mean, it's the NFL and anything can happen, but the Chiefs have been taking everybody's best shot every single week and at 7-1 I don't think they lose their focus this week. If anything, it helps the Chiefs just as much in realizing CLE is a wounded animal backed into a corner. In reference to the OP with the example of the 2011 KC vs GB game, that was 7 years ago. It might literally be the last time a team won a game the week of firing their HC. Anyone remember another time that happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, FANATIC said: No way with a superstar QB. Cleve is what it is....pathetic. The Packers has a superstar QB in the game he’s mentioning too though. Team will probably play much more loose and unfortunately get Duke Johnson back involved. And we know Gregg Williams will have his bounty system fully operational trying to take the kid out. This was a game I wasn’t realistically worried about but this scenario combined with reality they do have some talent and already beat Balt and tied Pitt at home makes it a trap type game. Especially coming off two prime time and one division rival game. If we do what we do on offense they won’t be able to keep up. But a letdown game or turnovers change that dynamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/nfl-betting-analysis-performance-after-firing-head-coach-hue-jackson 2017 Giants Ben McAdoo No 2016 Rams Jeff Fisher No 2015 Eagles Chip Kelly Yes 2015 Titans Ken Whisenhunt Yes 2015 Dolphins Joe Philbin Yes 2014 Raiders Dennis Allen No 2011 Chiefs Todd Haley Yes Dolphins Tony Sparano Yes Jaguars Jack Del Rio No 2010 49ers Mike Singletary Yes Broncos Josh McDaniels No Cowboys Wade Phillips Yes Vikings Brad Childress Yes 2009 Bills Dick Jauron No 2008 49ers Mike Nolan No Raiders Lane Kiffin No Rams Scott Linehan Yes 2007 Falcons Bobby Petrino No 2005 Lions Steve Mariucci No 2004 Browns Butch Davis No Dolphins Dave Wannstedt No 2003 Falcons Dan Reeves No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: The Packers has a superstar QB in the game he’s mentioning too though. Team will probably play much more loose and unfortunately get Duke Johnson back involved. And we know Gregg Williams will have his bounty system fully operational trying to take the kid out. This was a game I wasn’t realistically worried about but this scenario combined with reality they do have some talent and already beat Balt and tied Pitt at home makes it a trap type game. Especially coming off two prime time and one division rival game. If we do what we do on offense they won’t be able to keep up. But a letdown game or turnovers change that dynamic. Same thing. Browns down early.....Mayfield under pressure.......Sacks and turnovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I agree that this could be a trap game... I know Dorsey would love nothing better than to beat us. Plus, until we stop can stop the run, I will always be nervous. If I had to bet money, I would take the chiefs because..well, it's the Browns. But I don't think it's gonna be easy...Especially if Greg Williams is smart enough to just hand the ball off versus making Mayfield drop back 30 times. They will get the Cleveland's best shot, no doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Right now every game aside from the Rams and Chargers at home is a trap game, I felt like we came out lethargic against the donkeys but really that was just one drive and we proceeded to score on the next 4-5 possessions so I'm not worried to much about it because I like the way we respond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just now, FANATIC said: Same thing. Browns down early.....Mayfield under pressure.......Sacks and turnovers. Absolutely do what we’ve done most of the year. Jump on them early and play the game on our terms. We are a better team that’s better coached I just expect them to play with some renewed emotion after letting the dead weight go. And human nature would suggest an emotional let down from us is possible. None of that likely matters against the Cardinals, but again this Browns team has already proven itself decent at home vs playoff caliber teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, soonerborn77 said: Right now every game aside from the Rams and Chargers at home is a trap game, I felt like we came out lethargic against the donkeys but really that was just one drive and we proceeded to score on the next 4-5 possessions so I'm not worried to much about it because I like the way we respond. Yea, you might be right... Just my inner chief coming out I guess. I'm mentally conditioned to think the worse..CTSD??? (Chiefs Traumatic Stress Disorder) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soonerborn77 276 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The weather won't be a factor either which helps us not give an advantage to the underdog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reesebobby 5,663 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, oldtimer said: https://www.actionnetwork.com/nfl/nfl-betting-analysis-performance-after-firing-head-coach-hue-jackson 2017 Giants Ben McAdoo No 2016 Rams Jeff Fisher No 2015 Eagles Chip Kelly Yes 2015 Titans Ken Whisenhunt Yes 2015 Dolphins Joe Philbin Yes 2014 Raiders Dennis Allen No 2011 Chiefs Todd Haley Yes Dolphins Tony Sparano Yes Jaguars Jack Del Rio No 2010 49ers Mike Singletary Yes Broncos Josh McDaniels No Cowboys Wade Phillips Yes Vikings Brad Childress Yes 2009 Bills Dick Jauron No 2008 49ers Mike Nolan No Raiders Lane Kiffin No Rams Scott Linehan Yes 2007 Falcons Bobby Petrino No 2005 Lions Steve Mariucci No 2004 Browns Butch Davis No Dolphins Dave Wannstedt No 2003 Falcons Dan Reeves No In 2015 the Giants beat the 6-10 Giants, the Titans beat the 4-5 Saints, The Dolphins beat the 1-4 Titans who were about to fire their coach. In 2011 the Bills beat the 5-9 Bills. The 2010 49ers beat the 5-11 Cards. The Vikes beat the 6-10 Redskins. In 2008 the Rams beat the 8-8 Redskins. Our Chiefs beating the 15-1 Packers in 2011 is really the only game in the past 10 years where a really good team lost one of these "trap games". Even then we were a 7-9 team that won the division the prior year. I just don't see the Browns being able to pull one off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 35 minutes ago, artsy said: Yea, you might be right... Just my inner chief coming out I guess. I'm mentally conditioned to think the worse..CTSD??? (Chiefs Traumatic Stress Disorder) After 5 straight winning seasons you may need to let that go until January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I’d add to me a trap game is when one team can potentially be emotionally charged for matchup while the superior team may be poised for an emotional letdown. Wouldn’t have likely been case minus these coaching changes Happens all the time and in this league and it costs you games. Add the Browns are actually 2-1-1 at home. So by my definition anyway Browns is a trap game whereas Cardinals the next week really isn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamaroyal 87 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Don't take the Browns lightly... They have a ball hawking D, and a pretty good RB in Chubb... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppalachianChief 116 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Stop with the trap game bullshit the people on this site kill me with that shit! Chiefs are going to destroy the Browns and Cardinals! 55-10 Chiefs over Browns. Trap game ROFLMFAO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClarksvilleChief 193 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, AppalachianChief said: Stop with the trap game bullshit the people on this site kill me with that shit! Chiefs are going to destroy the Browns and Cardinals! 55-10 Chiefs over Brown. Trap game ROFLMFAO! Ok..that's how it SHOULD go....probably won't go that way though. It will probably be closer. Gregg Robinson probably already has a bounty out on our offense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 1 hour ago, ClarksvilleChief said: Ok..that's how it SHOULD go....probably won't go that way though. It will probably be closer. Gregg Robinson probably already has a bounty out on our offense... Yes I agree. It will not be 55-10. It will be closer than we think. It shouldn't, but it will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The Browns are an easy team to beat. Get an early lead on them and make Baker try to beat you. They are weak on the edges so the pass-rushers should be feasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Mloe68 said: I’d add to me a trap game is when one team can potentially be emotionally charged for matchup while the superior team may be poised for an emotional letdown. Wouldn’t have likely been case minus these coaching changes Happens all the time and in this league and it costs you games. Add the Browns are actually 2-1-1 at home. So by my definition anyway Browns is a trap game whereas Cardinals the next week really isn’t. Agree, the Chiefs had a much more intense game with the Donks. Who gets worked up against the Browns? But I think this team is eager enough and well enough coached to avoid falling asleep against CLE. There's just too much difference in talent at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 37 minutes ago, liquidfriend said: The Browns are an easy team to beat. Get an early lead on them and make Baker try to beat you. They are weak on the edges so the pass-rushers should be feasting. The Steelers are the only team this year that has caught us from behind after taking control early. Playing from ahead makes a big difference in helping to avoid our woeful run defense getting exposed in a meaningful way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 This team is fully aware of what happened last season with the mid season drought...they are preparing for these next four games with that in mind. Don’t forget that after lettin Forsey go, Clark is treating this game different and has made Andy fully aware of the potential embarrassment. Also...just on a personal note, “trap game” dumbest thing I’ve ever heard of. Any game you are favored in is a potential trap game. Don’t make it anything more than what it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,020 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Not this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I think some people confuse a trap game as a prediction of a loss. It’s not. It’s a more dangerous game than records indicate based on a logical emotional let down on one side against an emotionally charged and talented enough team on the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Any chance the Browns could get Dwayne Rudd back for the last play of the game? 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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