jetlord 10,210 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 6 hours ago, VIChiefsFan said: The talking heads keep saying that every game is going to 80 points soon, but not every team can have a Mahomes, a Hill, a Kelce, a Hunt and a Watkins. The future belongs to Goff, Wentz, Trubisky, and Mahomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WichitaZRide 321 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I can’t take credit for this...but it takes a dynamic QB, talented weapons, and an innovative offensive play caller to pull this off. Even with the changes in the game, that’s not a combo that a lot of teams will have. You can’t pick up a Mahomes or Goff on every street corner and you can’t find a Mcvay or Reid anywhere either....may be imitated by other teams, but hard to duplicate...just like Golden State...everyone wants to move to their style, but it’s obviously easier said than done(present losing streak excluded...lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Not many games will be as high scoring or thrilling as this one but with the ways rules have been changing the old fashioned smash-mouth football will be out of the mix in a few years. NFL seems to be evolving more towards NBA, which is frightening for those that like the way game used to be played rather than how it is played now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I like defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 9 hours ago, jetlord said: The future belongs to Goff, Wentz, Trubisky, and Mahomes. Good thing is that list has 3 NFC names on it although Watson and I think eventually Mayfield are prime AFC candidates along with our guy. Playoffs this year will feature old guard future HOFers vs new blood hopefuls on both sides of the table. That’s pretty compelling all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thegoatee 1,781 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Easy way to reduce concussions and increase defense is get rid of illegal contact or let the defenders put hands on WRs up to 10 yards not 5. Will slow down things and people will not be running full speed. May make more teams look to run. Though, it really takes a good QB and scheme to put up these numbers. College football has generally failed to teach QBs how to read defenses themselves so I think even more QBs are ill prepared to be successful in the NFL. The disparity between the best QB and worst QB will grow. I’d also say, the Rams and Chiefs are two of the worst defenses in the league. Sure, their defensive line is disruptive, but their LBs and DBs are not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,020 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 19 hours ago, jetlord said: The future belongs to Goff, Wentz, Trubisky, and Mahomes. Not sure about trubusky yet. I think Watson could be on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Calichief said: Not sure about trubusky yet. I think Watson could be on this list. If Trubisky had the weapons that Mahomes has, he would be up there pretty high. Have to see more of Watson, but he does know how to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,020 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 hours ago, jetlord said: If Trubisky had the weapons that Mahomes has, he would be up there pretty high. Have to see more of Watson, but he does know how to win. To a degree. He doesn’t have the arm strength to do what pat does with our weapons. It does matter in the way kc is doing things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 9 hours ago, Calichief said: To a degree. He doesn’t have the arm strength to do what pat does with our weapons. It does matter in the way kc is doing things. He does not have the talent too imo. Mahomes makes plays when most would be screwed even if they had the same weapons. He has the ability to throw at different arm angles, learns fast because of his memory and study of tapes plus remembers if anything new was used while playing. He is a stud period. I dont believe Trubisky would have us at our current record let alone TDs and such if he was here and I do think Chicago would be even better with Mahomes as a qb right now if they were switched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Trubisky has a lot of raw talent as well and a high ceiling. I wouldn't compare him to Mahomes though. Mahomes has more weapons but not many QBs in the NFL would be able to do some of the things he can in the same environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 5:01 PM, reesebobby said: Defenders used to be able to get away with murder... Ha ha ha ha....I see what you did there...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 6:14 PM, xen said: Chicks dig the long ball... 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,020 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 7 hours ago, kkuenn said: He does not have the talent too imo. Mahomes makes plays when most would be screwed even if they had the same weapons. He has the ability to throw at different arm angles, learns fast because of his memory and study of tapes plus remembers if anything new was used while playing. He is a stud period. I dont believe Trubisky would have us at our current record let alone TDs and such if he was here and I do think Chicago would be even better with Mahomes as a qb right now if they were switched. Absolutely. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfscall 204 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 1:05 PM, Handswarmer said: Thats why I loathe going to the bar to watch it or someone's house. No one is really paying attention, then clap and cheer when something happens. I sit in silence with the remote in one hand to switch from my game to RedZone channel, or other game and phone for twitter updates while making notes on a scribble pad. You're a freak!! Ya know that don't cha? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted November 23, 2018 Author Share Posted November 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, Wolfscall said: You're a freak!! Ya know that don't cha? YOU BETCHA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the Warparty 69 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 No, this isn't my kind of football this is https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/9/7871727/1969-kansas-city-chiefs-defense-super-bowl-history It's a long read, but last couple of paragraphs compare the 69 Chiefs to other more famous defenses. Peeps still talk about the 2000 Ravens or the 85 Bears, but the 69 /Chiefs only fault was they were still in the AFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer 8,694 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 yep to that ..look at the HOFrs that came off the D.. that speaks for itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 1 hour ago, the Warparty said: No, this isn't my kind of football this is https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2015/2/9/7871727/1969-kansas-city-chiefs-defense-super-bowl-history It's a long read, but last couple of paragraphs compare the 69 Chiefs to other more famous defenses. Peeps still talk about the 2000 Ravens or the 85 Bears, but the 69 /Chiefs only fault was they were still in the AFL Was the 69 defense really any better than 1997 group who went an NFL record 10 straight games without surrendering a second half TD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 5 hours ago, Mloe68 said: Was the 69 defense really any better than 1997 group who went an NFL record 10 straight games without surrendering a second half TD? Yes, IMHO. Solid at every level and probably the best trio of LBs we've ever seen. How many points did the 1997 version give up in Arrowhead in the playoff loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 On 11/22/2018 at 7:18 AM, oldtimer said: I like defense Count me in on this thought too... I just happen to also be a sooners fan. The Sooners look exactly like a college version of the chiefs. All offense and absolutely no defense. For someone like me who actually appreciates the game of football, I don't like it. It resembles flag football or arena league. I know there are a lot of people who actually like to see all of this offense with tons of points being scored (my wife is one them), but I guess I'm a "purist" and it feels gross... I hope this isn't the beginning of the end the game some of us love, but it's definitely changing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, artsy said: Count me in on this thought too... I just happen to also be a sooners fan. The Sooners look exactly like a college version of the chiefs. All offense and absolutely no defense. For someone like me who actually appreciates the game of football, I don't like it. It resembles flag football or arena league. I know there are a lot of people who actually like to see all of this offense with tons of points being scored (my wife is one them), but I guess I'm a "purist" and it feels gross... I hope this isn't the beginning of the end the game some of us love, but it's definitely changing. Well, at least Michigan has a great college defense. Oh, never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 3 hours ago, jetlord said: Yes, IMHO. Solid at every level and probably the best trio of LBs we've ever seen. How many points did the 1997 version give up in Arrowhead in the playoff loss? They gave up 14 points to the number one offense in the NFL with a HOF QB, RB and TE. It was the fewest points the Broncos scored all season. Of course they didn’t have a HOF QB like the 1969 team and only scored 10 points ourselves. Not really worth debating over but a fun thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 46 minutes ago, artsy said: Count me in on this thought too... I just happen to also be a sooners fan. The Sooners look exactly like a college version of the chiefs. All offense and absolutely no defense. For someone like me who actually appreciates the game of football, I don't like it. It resembles flag football or arena league. I know there are a lot of people who actually like to see all of this offense with tons of points being scored (my wife is one them), but I guess I'm a "purist" and it feels gross... I hope this isn't the beginning of the end the game some of us love, but it's definitely changing. The Chiefs do things well on defense (top 3 on third down and sacks) unlike OU who’s entire group is a complete disaster. I mean you guys let KU score 40 on you. It’s almost incomprehensible to me that a team who gets to pick its own talent could be THAT bad. They even tried firing their Bob Sutton which of course didn’t help at all. There’s a real talent issue there somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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