dhitter 1,426 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 It would be great if the Chiefs would just be straightforward. Eric Berry will practice, albeit limited, and we plan to play him Thursday night. How hard is that? If he can't go because of the pain or discomfort then say that. All this maybe/maybe not crap week in and week out is BS. Talk to your fanbase and ticket holders like they are adults...not like little kids who can't handle knowing Santa isn't real (sorry if that last part has disillusioned anyone).🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 2 hours ago, Mloe68 said: What I’m hearing is that Berry has been cleared to play for over a month and this has completely been his decision to sit out because of fear of tearing Achilles. Not sure why now although it fits rational timeline for meaningful play vs risk. This may explain why he wasn’t IRd and the cryptic nature of whole injury. I can’t confirm this but it does come from solid media source. In any case it will be good to see him on the field if it really happens like we think No idea where you heard that, because there isn't any enhanced risk. The Chiefs are always cautious when it comes to injuries and let Berry decide when he felt he could manage to play through it. The plan was to hold off as long as they could to preserve him for the playoffs and now he's getting a tune up before they begin. I think armchair theory crafting just went off the rails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 6 hours ago, Mloe68 said: What I’m hearing is that Berry has been cleared to play for over a month and this has completely been his decision to sit out because of fear of tearing Achilles. Not sure why now although it fits rational timeline for meaningful play vs risk. This may explain why he wasn’t IRd and the cryptic nature of whole injury. I can’t confirm this but it does come from solid media source. In any case it will be good to see him on the field if it really happens like we think If cleared he should have been practicing with the team as a backup or something. No need to hold him out for so long. Or may be he has been doing some light practice but Chiefs info is better protected than Fort Knox. Would be a great surprise if he's coming back 100% and already shook off the rust in practice but that's probably a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefsfan1963 1,101 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 8 hours ago, liquidfriend said: No idea where you heard that, because there isn't any enhanced risk. Hey doc, it hurts when I turn my head this way. What's the diagnosis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 10 hours ago, liquidfriend said: No idea where you heard that, because there isn't any enhanced risk. The Chiefs are always cautious when it comes to injuries and let Berry decide when he felt he could manage to play through it. The plan was to hold off as long as they could to preserve him for the playoffs and now he's getting a tune up before they begin. I think armchair theory crafting just went off the rails. This isn’t a theory. It came from sources directly inside of Arrowhead who said coaches were frustrated and were ready for him to play over a month ago. It was all Eric Berry’s call and they weren’t going to force issue because he is Eric Berry. Point is medical staff had told coaches weeks ago there’s no reason he can’t play. Were they right? Maybe he just didn’t trust our medical staff and was relying on private prognosis. Which seems logical as well based on experience. We don’t know. But if he was cleared over a month ago it again does explain why we’ve held a roster spot for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: This isn’t a theory. It came from sources directly inside of Arrowhead who said coaches were frustrated and were ready for him to play weeks ago. It was all Eric Berry’s call and they weren’t going to force issue because he is Eric Berry. Point is medical staff had told coaches weeks ago there’s no reason he can’t play. This sucks because he had to feel like shit watching on the sidelines when he knew he could have helped. I understand being cautious but to sit there for weeks and not to try and at least practice is bs imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 minutes ago, kkuenn said: This sucks because he had to feel like shit watching on the sidelines when he knew he could have helped. I understand being cautious but to sit there for weeks and not to try and at least practice is bs imo. I added to this post because all I know based on this is he was cleared by our medical staff well over a month ago. But maybe privately he was getting another prognosis and didn’t trust our staff or something. The guy is clearly an incredibly competitive person which is part of his charisma that makes him such a great leader. I’m just saying there seems to be a disconnect between what Berry felt and our medical staffs prognosis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: I added to this post because all I know based on this is he was cleared by our medical staff well over a month ago. But maybe privately he was getting another prognosis and didn’t trust our staff or something. The guy is clearly an incredibly competitive person which is part of his charisma that makes him such a great leader. I’m just saying there seems to be a disconnect between what Berry felt and our medical staffs prognosis. FAKE NEWS... for me I need a real source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dksww 484 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1073244106091048960 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 18 minutes ago, FANATIC said: FAKE NEWS It’s not fake, I can assure you. Again the backstory is all theory. But Berry being cleared over a month ago and coaches being frustrated isn’t. Doesn’t mean much now. Berry can provide a HUGE lift to this defense going forward and hopefully keep himself on the field with growing role as we gear up for the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 8 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: It’s not fake, I can assure you. Again the backstory is all theory. But Berry being cleared over a month ago and coaches being frustrated isn’t. Doesn’t mean much now. Berry can provide a HUGE lift to this defense going forward and hopefully keep himself on the field with growing role as we gear up for the playoffs. Nothing personal. Your assurance is not enough for me. Its rumor at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkuenn 3,613 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 39 minutes ago, FANATIC said: FAKE NEWS... for me I need a real source. http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/chiefs-eric-berry-injury-update-return-practice-achilles-stats-raiders-week-13/153ruqe771emb1jla3qhvpkfj7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 35 minutes ago, dksww said: https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1073244106091048960 Just having him on the field should be a huge boost! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 11 minutes ago, kkuenn said: http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/chiefs-eric-berry-injury-update-return-practice-achilles-stats-raiders-week-13/153ruqe771emb1jla3qhvpkfj7 Thanks. Good info. This does not support he chose not to play the last few week when he was supposedly good to go.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Big difference between limited practice and going game speed after two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,812 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Other than a morale boost for the defense, I don't see Berry making much difference tonight. Hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, SEMO said: Other than a morale boost for the defense, I don't see Berry making much difference tonight. Hope I'm wrong. Exactly. How many places can he be on the field during a play. Teams will just throw away from him, like usual. I think his biggest contribution will be in the running game. He can actually tackle. Parker and Murray should be at home watching football games on TV like the rest of us. They absolute SUCK ASS. Oh yea, they can take ole "Dirty Dan" with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, artsy said: Exactly. How many places can he be on the field during a play. Teams will just throw away from him, like usual. I think his biggest contribution will be in the running game. He can actually tackle. Parker and Murray should be at home watching football games on TV like the rest of us. They absolute SUCK ASS. Oh yea, they can take ole "Dirty Dan" with them. Did Berry cover tight ends and slot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artsy 1,137 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Just now, FANATIC said: Did Berry cover tight ends and slot? Mostly TE's..And over the top, Single High Safety.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jetlord 10,210 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, SEMO said: Other than a morale boost for the defense, I don't see Berry making much difference tonight. Hope I'm wrong. You're probably not wrong, but with three or four weeks until their first playoff game, it has to be now or forget about it. Berry may make a play just out of experience or instinct, but the real payoff is having him ready by January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 5 hours ago, FANATIC said: FAKE NEWS... for me I need a real source. Lets just say its a local media sports director. I'm not throwing his name out there because this was told in private. But if you live in KC, you know him and he's well connected. I'm not trying to claim some scoop here. I'm just pointing out a simple fact that could help explain this whole thing a LITTLE better. In any case there were those on this board who thought he'd never play for the Chiefs again. I'm hoping I see him prove that wrong tonight and better yet still be able to play next week too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted December 13, 2018 Author Share Posted December 13, 2018 3 hours ago, FANATIC said: Did Berry cover tight ends and slot? He's been really good vs tight ends. Our absolute biggest weakness. Not so much covering the slot. He's also a force as an in the box run defender and has closing speed to cover corners big time over the top which allows more aggressive play. At least when he was 100 percent. What he can do tonight will be interesting. But just having him on the field has to give that unit some boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomahawkChop 255 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 I might be in the minority, but I think Berry will play well and make a difference. Being out as long as he's been can be viewed as bad. On one hand, he's not in game shape and will likely have some rust. However, he's also not taken a hit all season (two seasons for that matter), so his lack of game condition may be offset a bit by his being fresh. I wonder what the pitch count is going to look like. 20-snaps? 25? 35? We'll find out in a few short hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 8 hours ago, Chiefsfan1963 said: Hey doc, it hurts when I turn my head this way. What's the diagnosis? Put some ointment on your labia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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