Biggjliv4 1,292 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 No way do you pull a Rams and sign big defensive FA. Wade Phillips was a proven DC that repeatedly had built championship defenses, you can justify risking those kinds of movea with him. Bob Sutton has proven nothing consistently, you don't spend like that with him leading the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qnet 1,158 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 1 hour ago, artsy said: Well, Hunt was a good pick..right? No one could see the future... He was, but didn't he have issues in college before this latest incident? Maybe I'm overreacting to the situation, because I'm sure other guys had done things similar to him, I'm almost positive of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Balto said: Chiefs could of drafted James Connor or Tarik Cohen instead of Hunt..... And up until midway of this year fans would have been bitching that we could have had Hunt... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 22 minutes ago, xen said: And up until midway of this year fans would have been bitching that we could have had Hunt... Crystal balls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisChief-Maker 135 Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 Another way to look at this is how the Ravens built up their offense last offseason. They signed John Brown, Michael Crabtree and Willie Snead all in free agency. And that's that's what i'm talking about yall. None of them are "superstars" but they are experienced vets who can get the job done. So let's say we went out and signed Breeland, Darby and Thomas to our secondary, wouldn't that automatically take our defense to another level overnight? And if Thomas is too expensive then swap him for Iloka. I think that would be huge because we already have a worldclass pass rush. And let's be real yall, are three rookies from the positions where we'd be picking at likely to make a bigger impact than those three? I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sith13 1,746 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 44 minutes ago, MisChief-Maker said: Another way to look at this is how the Ravens built up their offense last offseason. They signed John Brown, Michael Crabtree and Willie Snead all in free agency. And that's that's what i'm talking about yall. None of them are "superstars" but they are experienced vets who can get the job done. So let's say we went out and signed Breeland, Darby and Thomas to our secondary, wouldn't that automatically take our defense to another level overnight? And if Thomas is too expensive then swap him for Iloka. I think that would be huge because we already have a worldclass pass rush. And let's be real yall, are three rookies from the positions where we'd be picking at likely to make a bigger impact than those three? I doubt it. Anquan Boldin was a very good example. He has never been the high priced guy that torches defenses on fire but rather solid guy that the offenses could rely on. We need some of that on defense, we focus on star potential but miss out on serviceable 2nd or 3rd tier guys. Once those star potentials don't become a reality we end up with a bunch of useless guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Disn’t they spend a bunch of money to be the same team? Their secondary is nearly as bad as ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 13 hours ago, sith13 said: Anquan Boldin was a very good example. He has never been the high priced guy that torches defenses on fire but rather solid guy that the offenses could rely on. We need some of that on defense, we focus on star potential but miss out on serviceable 2nd or 3rd tier guys. Once those star potentials don't become a reality we end up with a bunch of useless guys. When there is no identity it's hard to choose the right players. Veach tried to go out and get guys like Ragland and Hitchens assuming they'd be impact players immediately and bring attitude to a defense which couldn't hold a 21-3 lead to the Titans. Sutton and Veach are not on the same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 3 hours ago, DefensiveMan said: When there is no identity it's hard to choose the right players. Veach tried to go out and get guys like Ragland and Hitchens assuming they'd be impact players immediately and bring attitude to a defense which couldn't hold a 21-3 lead to the Titans. Sutton and Veach are not on the same page. When your identity is defined by a coach who is only invested in offense, and bob is your DC, you are going to have struggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 14 hours ago, DieHard said: Disn’t they spend a bunch of money to be the same team? Their secondary is nearly as bad as ours. Ravens secondary is light years ahead of the Chiefs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 On 12/21/2018 at 5:38 AM, MisChief-Maker said: Another way to look at this is how the Ravens built up their offense last offseason. They signed John Brown, Michael Crabtree and Willie Snead all in free agency. And that's that's what i'm talking about yall. None of them are "superstars" but they are experienced vets who can get the job done. So let's say we went out and signed Breeland, Darby and Thomas to our secondary, wouldn't that automatically take our defense to another level overnight? And if Thomas is too expensive then swap him for Iloka. I think that would be huge because we already have a worldclass pass rush. And let's be real yall, are three rookies from the positions where we'd be picking at likely to make a bigger impact than those three? I doubt it. On 12/21/2018 at 6:27 AM, sith13 said: Anquan Boldin was a very good example. He has never been the high priced guy that torches defenses on fire but rather solid guy that the offenses could rely on. We need some of that on defense, we focus on star potential but miss out on serviceable 2nd or 3rd tier guys. Once those star potentials don't become a reality we end up with a bunch of useless guys. When Joe was the QB, brown and Crabtree were getting targets. Now with Lamar, Snead catches everything in the middle. Bolding was the best WR Joe ever had....that's pretty sad and shows you how much Joe has had to do it on his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefensiveMan 758 Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Handswarmer said: When Joe was the QB, brown and Crabtree were getting targets. Now with Lamar, Snead catches everything in the middle. Bolding was the best WR Joe ever had....that's pretty sad and shows you how much Joe has had to do it on his own. He had Torrey Smith, Steve Smith for some years. Bolden fit the offense because his mentality was tough minded and could make those tough catches over the middle. Snead has filled that role this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHard 2,061 Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/22/2018 at 8:28 AM, Handswarmer said: Ravens secondary is light years ahead of the Chiefs I was talking about what the Rams did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/22/2018 at 7:28 AM, Handswarmer said: Ravens secondary is light years ahead of the Chiefs Damn it I have to agree with a Ravens fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handswarmer 645 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 On 12/22/2018 at 12:16 PM, DefensiveMan said: He had Torrey Smith, Steve Smith for some years. Bolden fit the offense because his mentality was tough minded and could make those tough catches over the middle. Snead has filled that role this year. Torrey Smith could not run routes and always looked like he was falling down. Smit was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calichief 3,024 Posted December 24, 2018 Share Posted December 24, 2018 9 hours ago, azchief21 said: Damn it I have to agree with a Ravens fan Ravens defense looks tremendous. Fast , aggressive, and great tacklers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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