Chevarias Ward. Big corner

[Palangi 788]

1 minute ago, FANATIC said:

I hope your not driving. 🙄

Ok?

[FANATIC 852]

2 minutes ago, Palangi said:

Ok?

Because you must be drunk to think that guy has talent. 

[liquidfriend 1,151]

6 hours ago, jetlord said:

Expectations weren't that high before the season started so if the Chiefs win one playoff game I'm not  sure heads will roll.  Maybe even Reid can see the failure of Sutton's coaching and will change, but the pressure won't be on.  Hope I'm wrong.

i'm telling you guys, he's cooked.

[jetlord 10,210]

What better time to give Ward and T. Smith a look to see how they handle real game time.  Maybe neither has talent but there's no better time than to find out tonight.

[jetlord 10,210]

1 minute ago, liquidfriend said:

i'm telling you guys, he's cooked.

If the Chiefs win two playoff games or even only one, are you sure that will apply?

[Chiefswinitall 60]

Another thing to think about is are these guys getting the coaching?   Have you seen any rookie corners develop under these guys?

 

[DefensiveMan 758]

Veach really has a keen eye for building depth. I'm impressed.

[liquidfriend 1,151]

4 minutes ago, jetlord said:

If the Chiefs win two playoff games or even only one, are you sure that will apply?

Did you watch that game?  I don't see a result beyond one and done.

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

4 minutes ago, liquidfriend said:

i'm telling you guys, he's cooked.

Dude where are you getting this from? Dont be that guy that is all evasive and secretive. If you dont have a link at least say you have a trustworthy source. 

[FANATIC 852]

1 minute ago, DefensiveMan said:

Veach really has a keen eye for building depth. I'm impressed.

EXACTLY

[liquidfriend 1,151]

10 minutes ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Dude where are you getting this from? Dont be that guy that is all evasive and secretive. If you dont have a link at least say you have a trustworthy source. 

I get tid bits here and there.  So far it seems like it's more reliable than Nick Athan.  Don't think that's something to brag about but whatevs.

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

Just now, liquidfriend said:

I get tid bits here and there.  So far it seems like it's more reliable than Nick Athan.  Don't think that's something to brag about but whatevs.

Nick Athan hasnt had inside info since Herm was fired.

[DefensiveMan 758]

Good to know Mahomes has a future in this league. Glad he's on our side.

[liquidfriend 1,151]

Just now, Iluvhouse24 said:

Nick Athan hasnt had inside info since Herm was fired.

I think his source was one of Carl's goons.  Lynn something Can't remember the full name.

I think the main frustration from Andy isn't simply that the Defense isn't good, as they expected it with young guys and key holes.  The real issue is there has been zero improvement from the start till now.

[Holmes4six! 974]

ward got worked like a rented mule tonight. man do we need corners and linebackers. 

jones is a beast  

hope this defense and sutton some,way play totally different scheme in playoffs just to,through other teams off because that’s the only chance we got  

[VIChiefsFan 262]

I don't see Ward playing another snap in this league. #horrible

[azchief21 5,278]

The fact that Veach went in to this season thinking any of these DBs could compete in the NFL scares me. Not to mention the IILBs. 

[Palangi 788]

I thought ward was in position most of the time.  It was his first start.  Two of his holding penalties were soft as hell.  

 

I'm not saying he is a shit down guy.  But I think there is potential to work with

[liquidfriend 1,151]

55 minutes ago, azchief21 said:

The fact that Veach went in to this season thinking any of these DBs could compete in the NFL scares me. Not to mention the IILBs. 

Only so much you can do without a first round pick and a god awful CB FA class.  The top guy was uh Malcom Butler?  He was bad.

They have a 1 at least next year and two 2nds, but they need multiple corners and next years FA class blows too.

[sith13 1,746]

16 minutes ago, liquidfriend said:

Only so much you can do without a first round pick and a god awful CB FA class.  The top guy was uh Malcom Butler?  He was bad.

They have a 1 at least next year and two 2nds, but they need multiple corners and next years FA class blows too.

I would still expect some effort with a few high upside guys and could may be spend a pick looking for a trade after the season started. Nobody expected the Chiefs to compete this year including Veach, IMO he just overlooked the need. 

[liquidfriend 1,151]

48 minutes ago, sith13 said:

I would still expect some effort with a few high upside guys and could may be spend a pick looking for a trade after the season started. Nobody expected the Chiefs to compete this year including Veach, IMO he just overlooked the need. 

If Veach didn't expect to compete than he should probably be fired.

They traded a guy that played like a probowl corner in this system without really any means to replace him that would be suitable.  The coordinator decided to not throw away all of his 3 man rush plays fully knowing he didn't have dick shit to cover with and the guys above him thought it was a great idea.

They had the opportunity to actually be ready to make that run, but they decided to choke on their own ties, mistaking them for fruit rollups, instead.

[Iluvhouse24 1,808]

6 hours ago, liquidfriend said:

Only so much you can do without a first round pick and a god awful CB FA class.  The top guy was uh Malcom Butler?  He was bad.

They have a 1 at least next year and two 2nds, but they need multiple corners and next years FA class blows too.

Trumaine Johnson, Kyle Fuller, Prince Amukamara, EJ Gaines, Mo Claiborne, TJ Carrie. Thats a pretty solid class. If you think it was bad, have a gander at this years crop. Nelson might be the best one out there, and that my friend...is depressing.

Bryce Callahan is having an excellent year and I doubt the Bears can keep him after paying Fuller and Prince, but he is another guy suited better for nickel or slot.  Its time to draft secondary early and often.

[FANATIC 852]

7 hours ago, sith13 said:

I would still expect some effort with a few high upside guys and could may be spend a pick looking for a trade after the season started. Nobody expected the Chiefs to compete this year including Veach, IMO he just overlooked the need. 

Exactly. Brass could not have expected Mahomes would be this amazing. Built the roster for 2019.

Still Veach put together a pathetic back up roster.

[Mloe68 1,521]

Ward flashed some real potential last night using his size well in the end zone and actually being able to run and mirror Lockett on deep ball. Clearly raw but he definitely has skills and size a new coordinator can try to develop.  

[liquidfriend 1,151]

4 hours ago, Iluvhouse24 said:

Trumaine Johnson, Kyle Fuller, Prince Amukamara, EJ Gaines, Mo Claiborne, TJ Carrie. Thats a pretty solid class. If you think it was bad, have a gander at this years crop. Nelson might be the best one out there, and that my friend...is depressing.

Bryce Callahan is having an excellent year and I doubt the Bears can keep him after paying Fuller and Prince, but he is another guy suited better for nickel or slot.  Its time to draft secondary early and often.

Trumaine Johnson has been a FA bust so far.  Fuller was a transition tag that reupped.  Claiborne apparently wanted ro stay in NY?

Gaines is a walking concussion and Carrie is a slot guy.

I thought they should have kicked the tires on Rashaan Melvin and still think they should.  Not a great year for the Raiders, but they also have 0 pass rush so only so much a guy can do.