Balto 723 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Seems his time with Steelers is over. I honestly hate the guy and in my top 3 least liked players in NFL BUT he is elite and would match up well with Hill. He would actually be pretty cheap for the trading team..post June trade 2019: $15.125 2020: $11.3 2021: $12.5 flame away...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 8 minutes ago, Balto said: Seems his time with Steelers is over. I honestly hate the guy and in my top 3 least liked players in NFL BUT he is elite and would match up well with Hill. He would actually be pretty cheap for the trading team..post June trade 2019: $15.125 2020: $11.3 2021: $12.5 flame away...... Watkins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Quit trying to trade away draft picks and cheap rookie contracts for expensive declining veterans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefmanzada 466 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Eh this dude is all about himself. Mahomes throws to many receivers, not just one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Mloe68 said: Quit trying to trade away draft picks and cheap rookie contracts for expensive declining veterans! Declining? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 1 hour ago, FANATIC said: Watkins? Put in deal for Brown....Would save us about $7M in cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANATIC 852 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Balto said: Put in deal for Brown....Would save us about $7M in cap Interesting idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilkie 1,518 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 No!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 They couldn't handle Marcus Peters, but will handle Antonio Brown? lol yeah right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azchief21 5,278 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 The defense. Let's use money on the defense. With the addition of Mahomes we currently have a Super Bowl winning offense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 I'm ok with spending money on the Offense, since it's the closest to elite and it's really an Offense driven league anymore. But to spend it on Antonio Brown? No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moons314 2,463 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Mloe68 said: Quit trying to trade away draft picks and cheap rookie contracts for expensive declining veterans! If we could give up some pieces that don't fit and the deal didn't include any picks, I'd be interested. I know that's highly unlikely, but a top 3 of Hill, Brown and Watkins would be nasty, and also some great insurance if Watkins gets hurt. We have the money to spare while Mahomes is on his rookie deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Balto said: Put in deal for Brown....Would save us about $7M in cap Even after the rest of Watkins signing bonus is accelerated into next years cap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 19 minutes ago, xen said: Even after the rest of Watkins signing bonus is accelerated into next years cap? In a trade scenario, yes. They would no longer be on the hook for guaranteed dollars. The only problem is the Steelers couldn't afford to eat the 21m dead cap than another 12 million in base salary for a brokedick WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legend of AC 269 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Balto doin’ his thing lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomahawkChop 255 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Absolutely no. Spend capital on defense. FA skill players will be begging to play with Mahomes and will likely accept less from the Chiefs than from many other teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMO 6,812 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Hell no! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Balto said: Put in deal for Brown....Would save us about $7M in cap You clearly don’t seem to grasp how this salary cap deal works. Neither player is going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xen 1,010,220 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 I just ran it through a trade simulator and with the acceleration we'd lose over 9 mil between dead money and Brown's salary vs just keeping Watkins, so we'd save Jack and squat. Regardless, this is a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mloe68 1,521 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, liquidfriend said: In a trade scenario, yes. They would no longer be on the hook for guaranteed dollars. The only problem is the Steelers couldn't afford to eat the 21m dead cap than another 12 million in base salary for a brokedick WR. Not true because there’s no trading our way out of the 21 million dollar signing bonus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidfriend 1,151 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 48 minutes ago, Mloe68 said: Not true because there’s no trading our way out of the 21 million dollar signing bonus! You do know that guaranteed money and signing bonus are 2 different things, right? A SB isn't exactly guaranteed money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, liquidfriend said: In a trade scenario, yes. They would no longer be on the hook for guaranteed dollars. The only problem is the Steelers couldn't afford to eat the 21m dead cap than another 12 million in base salary for a brokedick WR. This would have to be a “post-June” trade so its spread out. If so, the Steelers would have $7M in dead money BUT have a cap savings of $15M. Chiefs would have $7M in dead money with about $12M in cap savings. numbers actually work out pretty good/even for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, TomahawkChop said: Absolutely no. Spend capital on defense. FA skill players will be begging to play with Mahomes and will likely accept less from the Chiefs than from many other teams. Normally I’d agree but if we include Watkins in the deal our overall cap hit isn’t bad and still have $40+ to fix the D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Mloe68 said: You clearly don’t seem to grasp how this salary cap deal works. Neither player is going anywhere. Again...post June trade allows it to work for both teams. I’d agree that it doesn’t pre-June. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto 723 Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Mloe68 said: Not true because there’s no trading our way out of the 21 million dollar signing bonus! Post-June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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